Got a call from a mate earlyer...

[AlanWirral]

Well a few weeks back a mate of mine called to ask me to do a job for him. Basically fitting an extractor fan in a bathroom.

I was too busy so the 'Builder' doing the bathroom got a 'Spark' to come and do it for them. Now today i got a call to come and have a look at the job as they didn't think it was right

When i got there i was told there were two basicaly 'Young lads' doing the work and they had wrecked the ceiling and smashed an expensive lampshade on the landing

Walking up the stairs i see the cover off the pendent on the landing and a new 2 core 1.5mm T&E wired into the switched live so they then run it in the loft space (over the joists) and down the inside of the bathroom wall, drilled through to a surface mounted switched fused spur on the outside of the bathroom above the door.

Then from that into the loft space (over joists) down the wall to a ceramic air vent that had been smashed from a rectangle into a resembled 'round' hole. What was more shocking is the fan needs to be selv as it can be touched from the bath easily AND the loft hatch is in the bathroom with the existing fitting (pendent) right next to it!

Going to rewire and isolte accordingly with IP rated DL's and a ELV fan fed from above. How the hell does this stuff still go on

 

[morph]

seems fairly clear to me its dont need to be selv
are all the showers you fit selv?

 

[Electricalserv]

He is mate, how do you know lester? Through college?

 

[topquark]

seems fairly clear to me its dont need to be selv
are all the showers you fit selv?

All the ones I fit now are RCD protected though (and showers have an approprate IP rating).

 

[Octopus]

seems fairly clear to me its dont need to be selv
are all the showers you fit selv?

Yes, if they are in Zone 1

Whats your problem - they are not expensive.

 

[morph]

not saying i would'nt fit selv, but it dont need to be so i would not go to the job ranting about it needing to be selv . i agree it sounds like a poor job for what its worth

 

[i=p/u]

funny ..

 

[Octopus]

not saying i would'nt fit selv, but it dont need to be so i would not go to the job ranting about it needing to be selv . i agree it sounds like a poor job for what its worth

Only needs to be SELV if its in zone 1

 

[morph]

All the ones I fit now are RCD protected though (and showers have an approprate IP rating).

thats my point mate , if the fan is ip rated its ok )RCD too) the circuit should have rcd i fully agree, just saying selv is not a req

 

[AlanWirral]

For the record i'm going to be fitting selv regardless as it's piece of mind but thanks anyway

Yeah Lester from the college and also the Dave Tinsley courses i've done. Good guy

 

[topquark]

OK, I'll buy that. Does it NEED to be selv no, would I fit one that wasn't NO!

 

[AlanWirral]

Can the can of worms be closed now?? LOL

 

[morph]

personaly i would not be too worried as long as its ip 44 and rcd protected

 

[Electricalserv]

Yeh I know dave aswell. Lester is great, always there to help

 

[Octopus]

personaly i would not be too worried as long as its ip 44 and rcd protected

And SELV!

Extractor fans installed within zone 1 must be at least IPX4.
Extractor fans installed within zone 1 must be fitted with 12v SELV motors with the SELV transformers and isolators fitted outside of zone 0, 1 & 2

 

[morph]

Can the can of worms be closed now?? LOL

lol no worries
, the fan would be class two for what its worth,but not extra low voltage, maybe i am confussed