Green deal info

[sedgy34]

I bet BG will get it

 

[TedM]

BG will be a GD Provider so they would have trouble being the Administrator as well.

More likely Gemserv, I think.

 

[Gavin A]

More likely Gemserv, I think.

please let this not be true.

obviously it will be what happens.

 

[SRE]

Could be worse it could be REAL!

 

[Gavin A]

I think this sort of level of incompetence must be a London thing. I reckon it's maybe because it's all just a jobs merry go round between all the organisations, so nobody would want to rock the boat in case they end up needing work from one of the others at a later point.

eta plus they know they'll end up at some official function, or meeting with the person / organisation they'd cut the work from and that'd be a bit socially awkward.

 

[TedM]

Very true. One prime example is Virginia Graham, CEO of REAL, who used to work at OFGEM. Revolving doors.

 

[Eco Deal]

PV has been an approved technology under the Green Deal for a while. But how the Golden Rule applies to it or how FiTs payments might be affected has not been explained.

forget pv under the golden rule it just wont make it work

 

[SRE]

It won't meet it now but in a few years when grid parity is achieved it will be eligible under Green Deal or whatever the latest political version of it is.

 

[Eco Deal]

agreed SRE

 

[moggy1968]

would green deal offer an affordable way into PV for those whose houses don't (and possibly never will) meet the epc requirements?

 

[sedgy34]

would green deal offer an affordable way into PV for those whose houses don't (and possibly never will) meet the epc requirements?

the green deal is making it more affordable for EVERYONE to get there houses a band D and more efficient including pv

 

[SRE]

I think the jury's out until we have more details. If it costs 10k to get solid wall insulation on a detached house with oil heating to get it to a D rating then to come in under Green Deal as I understand it the repayments would have to be less than or equal to the savings achieved through the solid wall insulation and repayable within 20?? years. So £300 a year savings (and that's generous) x 20 years = 6k and that's without paying the 6 -7% interest that's being suggested.

Maybe my figures are wrong, maybe I haven't understood it but why would I tie in 10k ish of work to my fuel bills when any reduction ends up paying for the saving. Loft and cavity are much better examples but if you can't give it away free (and in some cases people on benefit are being paid to have it installed) then why would you pay for it. It's beyond me at the minute!

 

[Earthstore]

I have to agree, it is all beyond me also, and quite frankly I am tired of it all.
But on a lighter note, I emailed OFGEM over a month ago complaining about how complex the EPC rules are and also they are unclear, making a point about all the red tape,and asked for them to answer my questions and not send me to yet another PDF file, and guess what.....
I was sent a link to an 88 page document, says it all really.

 

[moggy1968]

yep, can't say I can see how it will work either. It's a dead duck as far as I can see. Might help with a bit of loft insulation but thats about it!
No one seems to have considered the efect on the houses electrical system of enclosing all that cable in insulation it was never designed for either.

 

[Mr Peacock]

I have already seen a Green deal format EPC, which lists the measures which could be implemented under the greendeal. it listed the improvement measures for the property as Solar Thermal and Solar PV. Which was a supprise. The Greendeal in my opinion will push the insulation and heating / hot water technologies first. Its pointless fitting a new band A condensing boiler, heatpump, or anything else for that matter if the insulation standard isnt up to scratch. For properties where the insulation has already been done, and a condensing boiler or heat pump fitted, then the room for improvement then looks at SOlar thermal, PV etc.