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Lol he came in his test sheet was half filled in, Every thing was >200 Meg Ohms.
I asked how many he did a day he said 3-4. asked how much his company charge he said "You wont get much more the 80-90 quid for a PIR these days"
i live in a 3 bed house. He did in fairness put some g@y sleeving on some bare Cpc's.
1 light SWT came off 1 Double socket.
 
on a standard 3 bed , bathroom , kitchen , lounge , it takes me 3 hours and i charge £95 ,you cant do it in 10 mins !!!! you are checking its condition you have to remove sockets and switches ... Do an R1R2 on a ring ye im sure he has , you have to count the sockets and switches , ill have to walk round and go mmm looks ok to me that'll be £95 thank you very much i think not , where the hell has the pride gone in the trade (excluding the guys on here mind ) OoOoooooooOoooo makes my blood boil well thinking about it at least i sleep well at night its so easy to miss things if you rush , even i may but its done to the best of my ability 4 a day my rear !!!
 
its the future......... people just walking in and sticking stickers for money. I listened last week to a boiler fitter .The money councils paid them to fit a boiler was PATHETIC. they had to do exchange 3 a day to even make £90 each !!!! i just wonder how many corners are cut at those speeds?

Its all down to the bone in the Public sector ..Give me private all day long .

And the guy was self employed !! think what he earns in a week . Everyone should pull away and let the public sector grind to a stop. demand better wages and a better code of practice .
 
I might do PIR'S and tell the customers they need to stay out all day because they will be in the way when I'm working, then nip in and a put a sticker on lol
 
mickeytuff - when you say 'engineers' what do you mean? You have to have a minimum HNC qualification to be entitled to call yourself an Incorporated Engineer and Degree level for Chartered Engineer. There are too many peeps calling themselves 'Engineers' without the legal right to do so.

Sorry, rant over!

Agreed! De-values it somewhat for people who actually are engineers, am a gold card JIB spark,not an engineer but the term engineer does seem to get waved around rather alot...don't British Gas promiss to send out one of their 'engineers' in their ads?
 
As I keep saying PIRs are becoming a new word for lipservice and dont forget in this climate these housing groups will want it cheaper next time so that the guy will tap on the door and hand it to you and maybe next time he will post it out to you and dont get me started on these egistration companies who are meant to police their members. So with that off my chest here is my idea as you know there is a minimum hourly rate so why dont we have a minimum PIR cost ie 1 bed flat 3 bed semi at least then there would be no excuses for missing things out or we could all pretend that every PIR is done by the book.
 
I always allow a full day for PIR and fixing any minor bits and pieces, and codes 1's. Charge my day rate. Once explained to the customer (usually a landlord) what my responsibilities are to them, and what their responsibilities are to their tenants it usually gets agreed. It gets done properly, I sleep and so do they. When all said and done if its costed over 5 years it works out at about £1 per week, which is about the same as the MOT on your car which nobody flinches about.

Cheers.......Howard
 
Jo public should read these forums. If only they knew what goes on in the world of Electrics and plumbing they would be shocked at the pathetic way it is all controlled .

About time a TV program was made for the trade to show the public how badly it is all done. Gas Safe etc is a joke etc
 
If someone wants to do dodgy PIR's, dodgy PAT or any other part of our industry that's open to abuse then they will, you can't blame NICEIC etc.

The scheme providers can police their members to a certain extent but short of watching over every job, what else can they do?

The public's appetite for a dirt cheap PIR with a 'satisfactory' assessment plays straight into the hands of the 4 a day fraudulent thief doing the Google Earth inspection.
 
IQ

Ill give you a ring when I get chance and give you a run down of whats happening in the bigger picture with a multi million pound company I'm working for, your enjoy it.
 
I'll look forward to it, I'm testing a massive, occupied office block and a chin wag will be a welcome distraction from the stress!
 
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And the guy was self employed !! think what he earns in a week . Everyone should pull away and let the public sector grind to a stop. demand better wages and a better code of practice .

The problem with going down that road is that there are boatloads of Polish sparks ready to jump into your place - for even less money !!!
 

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