HELP! Fire alarm problem, tiny fuses, much frustration!

[scotsparky]

I had a similar problem with break glassunits many years ago. If you can check to see if the smoke detectors activate at a resistance or a dead short?
The fault i had was the call points put a dead short on popping fuses The panel would activate if a 125k resistance showed up on the N/O detector circuit.

 

[tazz]

In and out is not correct for sav wire it just has 2 + and 2-

 

[rocker]

hmm that does look like what's there. Right, anyone know where I can get these cheap? This is already costing me a fortune!!

 

[tazz]

Would like to make sure we get it right before buy more detectors which could be wrong, are the sirens part of the base or seperate. and is this the panel...otherwise suggest some photos tomorrow and we will then know what you have

 

[rocker]

That looks closer to what I have, but still not quite. I will try and get some photos today.

Yea the sirens are seperate from the detectors.

Thanks for all your help so far. I hate alarms. I hate them.

 

[rocker]

 

[rocker]

Okay, in the above post, we have 1. the existing base 2. a sounder within the circuit 3. the panel 4.inside the panel 5. the last sounder in the circuit with the little resistor 6. my new base 7. my new detector. 8 is a repeat but should be the existing detectors (which ARE appollo s65 optical smokes).

Any ideas?? Cheers

 

[tazz]

Ok Panel is Haes excel, which is twin wire, using Sav wire bases, from pic 1 the base is wired incorrect, Apollo use a standard base for all their products so ingnore L1 in and L1 out , go by + and - printed on circuit baord.
attached is apollo sav base instruction for you
View attachment sav-wire_2_base_ig_212_issue_1.pdf

 

[rocker]

OK cool, thanks. If I wire them like this, will I then be able to use my detectors, or will I still have to get the apollo sav ones?

Just to mention - I have bypassed all of my detectors so that the system is as it was before I started, and it works fine like that (even with the incorrect wiring)

 

[tazz]

They will only work with Sav Bases, best ones are apollo which looks like are aleady fitted, so Apollo sav Baes with Apollo S65 detectors will do the job, JSB Fire | Menvier Fire | Ziton Fire - The Fire Alarm StoreThe No.1 Online Supplier of Top Quality Fire Alarm Equipment at Trade Prices this company will be alot cheaper than the one you are using. Got there in the end...lol

 

[rocker]

Oh also, is it possible for me to turn this zone into a 2-wire system or whatever? I.e. buy the diode bases for the existing detectors, and use my detectors alongside them? It would certainly be cheaper that way, but can it be done on this panel? Thanks!

 

[rocker]

Ah see you answered my question before I asked it!! I'll check out that link... thanks so much for all your help, you are a lifesaver!!

 

[Glen Window]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[tazz]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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[rocker]

I think mr window is simply trying to increase his post count.