HELP my company has signed off work I haven’t done in my name

[Pez5480]

My company have fully signed a test certificate in my name on a job that I have not been to, worked on or tested.

The work was done by a 4th year apprentice and tested by him as well. The test certificate was also filled incorrectly.

Is this illegal? And what would you guys do about this?

Cheers

 

[Pez5480]

So you have made over the phone dignostics and that allowed the apprentice to fix the fault and this written trail comfirms you took responsibility for him/her for that repair?

They couldn’t understand why they was getting electric shocks from “everything they touched” I simply asked the question of have you looked at the property’s earthing. The answer was no and I never heard from them after this point, spoke to the a few days later and got told bonding was missing they connected it and fixed it apparently. And now the jobs signed off in my name and I’ve never been there or checked it.

 

[Markyd]

I would go feckin mental at them

 

[Pez5480]

I would go feckin mental at them

I’m not best pleased, gunna give them a chance to remove the certificate or let me go test the property myself or I’m guessing I will have to get the niceic involved

 

[nicebutdim]

Sadly I've know far too many qualified and respected sparks who struggle with this if it isn't exactly as the standard.

One of the best sparks I've ever met can only conceive of 2 way switching wired in a particular manner.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Doesn't seem right to me that they are signing your name on a job cert that A you never completed and B you never even worked on the job site

Can you imagine if 6 months down the line someone got a shock and died at the job and the paper trail leads back to the signature on the the cert and you end up in jail for a job you never even did

 

[Pez5480]

Doesn't seem right to me that they are signing your name on a job cert that A you never completed and B you never even worked on the job site

Can you imagine if 6 months down the line someone got a shock and died at the job and the paper trail leads back to the signature on the the cert and you end up in jail for a job you never even did

This is what I’m worried about. I’ve got a paper trail now of this issue to my boss so if anything happens between now and it getting sorted I have proof of me raising this issue. I have also found 2 other jobs signed off in my name!!

 

[mart spark]

Yeah it’s not very fail safe as anyone can fill out the certs

As for the 4th year, I got a phone call while they was working on this job saying him and the plumbers are getting electric shocks from everything they touch, told them to check the houses earthing a bonding and they found the bonding was disconnected, apparently this fixed the issue

Yeah it’s not very fail safe as anyone can fill out the certs

As for the 4th year, I got a phone call while they was working on this job saying him and the plumbers are getting electric shocks from everything they touch, told them to check the houses earthing a bonding and they found the bonding was disconnected, apparently this fixed the issue

This doesn't sound right to me. Just becsuse the bonding was missing doesn't mean that they should necessarily be receiving electric shocks. Reconnecting the bonding and not diagnosing the reason why the shocks were happening could just be masking it.

 

[Dustydazzler]

This doesn't sound right to me. Just becsuse the bonding was missing doesn't mean that they should necessarily be receiving electric shocks. Reconnecting the bonding and not diagnosing the reason why the shocks were happening could just be masking it.

With or without bonding they shouldn't be getting shocks on the pipes, certainly need FI

 

[Pez5480]

This doesn't sound right to me. Just becsuse the bonding was missing doesn't mean that they should necessarily be receiving electric shocks. Reconnecting the bonding and not diagnosing the reason why the shocks were happening could just be masking it.

No doesn’t sound correct to me either and the fact that someone has disconnected the bonding sounds like maybe someone already tried fixing it but not found the issue. But as I was never put on this job I cant actually get to the bottom of this but the worse part is that it’s now signed in my name and the property might still have a fault.

 

[Pez5480]

With or without bonding they shouldn't be getting shocks on the pipes, certainly need FI

I agree and I’m not actually sure that even fixed the issue, but he found it disconnected and then just connected it back up. Personally the fact it was disconnected in the first place would have been a red flag and would need investigating why they would have disconnected it. But sadly now that job is signed off in my name with out me looking at at and the fault possibly still on the system.

 

[littlespark]

Can you in any way access the test sheets lodged from your company through NIC if that’s your CPS?
Find out how many, and then can you …. Well, I wouldn’t like to suggest deleting them…. But flag them somehow?

What about the software for producing or uploading the certs? Is there a user name and password that you can change so only you can access?

 

[Pez5480]

Can you in any way access the test sheets lodged from your company through NIC if that’s your CPS?
Find out how many, and then can you …. Well, I wouldn’t like to suggest deleting them…. But flag them somehow?

What about the software for producing or uploading the certs? Is there a user name and password that you can change so only you can access?

Only the recent ones accessible on the software, that’s how I found out they was doing it. Older ones can’t seem to find. But I have found copies of them on our data base so I know it’s more than one. Deleting them won’t remove them from the niceic which is what I need to sort out I guessing as I’m the last person there on paper

 

[LukeD]

I knew someone who had issues with the taxman.. A client turned a simple quote into a "full house set" and the taxman wanted to know where the money from the job was . All he did was provide the Quote .It took a lot of effort to prove fraud against him. Good luck , But create a paper trail. NOTHING should be done via phone etc

 

[Pez5480]

I knew someone who had issues with the taxman.. A client turned a simple quote into a "full house set" and the taxman wanted to know where the money from the job was . All he did was provide the Quote .It took a lot of effort to prove fraud against him. Good luck , But create a paper trail. NOTHING should be done via phone etc

I’m employed and the company name is on top of the certificate so shouldn’t get complicated with the taxman, I hope not anyway. Yeah got a paper trail from my personal email now.
Going to talk to the niceic later and see what they say about it

 

[littlespark]

You are the only tester? Which means only you carry a test kit?

So is there jobs they’re not testing at all? Or just making up values and using your signature which is saved on the software?

How badly do you need this job? Because I can see this causing a bit of a rift.

The NICEIC may not do anything other than telling the company that test sheets x,y,z etc are not valid and need resubmitted… which they’ll do without telling you again, and as far as NIC is concerned, all fine.

Saying that, is there a member on here that is registered with NICEIC and can ask them hypothetically what should happen in this case?

The company needs to send you on every job that’s been fraudulently tested and get you to do it again… however you may never know how many over and above what they might say need doing.
I don’t know if NIC would divulge that information. Ie “give me a list of all test sheets with my signature from this company”

Taking the legal route, and taking it as far as you want to go is really going to cause friction…
Losing your job, and then claiming unfair dismissal on top. Your name could still be being used without your knowledge.

NIC should be your first port of call, but unless you need this job desperately, I’d consult a solicitor.

You will need a strong mental attitude to take it as far as this. It might ruin the company.