Help needed to review quality of distributer box installation

[Isaac k]

Hi everyone,

I just had my distributer box upgraded to an RCD box, and I was wondering if anyone could advise me on the quality of the work done here. I know that changing these boxes is a nightmare to do, and truth be told our wiring was a mess before, but for the price we payed I don't believe there should be electrical tape and exposed wires coming out of the box. Also you can see the housing for the old night electricity box which they have decided to leave and they also chose not to cover the channel with all the exposed wires. I'm just curious to see what this forum's take is on this work, and if it was worth the £700 I payed for it.

Thanks!

(This is my first post, so if I am in the wrong category I apologise)

 

[JK-Electrical]

The crazy thing is that Scotland vs England... Part P is a bit of a joke here, and your government could take advantage of that knowledge to leapfrog us with a better system, one that would improve safety at home and also score an important political point by proving the new legislation out-performed that mandated by Westminster.

Aye ..... one would think that the opportunity for we Scots to get one up on you Sassenachs and stick two fingers up at Westminster would be too good to for the Scottish Government to resist. Knickerless Surgeon is missing-out on a diamond opportunity to win bragging rights that the innovative Scots are at the forefront of electrical safety and that primitive England lags a long way behind us.

 

[Deuce]

I think there is a more plausible explanation. I quote from the SELECT report, Electrician As A Profession - The Case For Regulation (Appendix C, page 51):

"The arrival of the “Part P” through the new Building Regulations for the Domestic Sector in 2005 opened the flood gates for around 100,000 poorly qualified "Domestic Installers" whose ultra short training programmes (one to three weeks typically) leaves them a world away from the capability of fully qualified Electrician who have learned their trade over four to five years."

It is no coincidence that a rise in consumer unit fires corresponds with the arrival into our industry of 'Domestic Installers'.

That doesn't explain the big leap from 11/12 to 12/13 in the stats though. Unless the work done after the change took a good few years to fail. A slow burn you could say.. leading to probably a fast burn.

That doesn't sound right though. There must have been another factor around that time that had an influence.

Not that it matters. Part P failed and worse still customers know of the term and accept it as some sort of guarantee of quality! I think public knowledge is partially to blame here. People naturally want to pay the least amount of money for the work done and they don't know enough to make an informed choice. All they know is they have heard of part P and if the spark has it, they sound like a good bet.

The core problem is that lawmakers want regulation and accreditation by default, but lose interest when it comes to policing it and making sure it is effective. We all know the answer is a period of job inspection after training but no one wants to spend the money or deal with logistics of making that happen.

 

[Deuce]

I think there is a more plausible explanation. I quote from the SELECT report, Electrician As A Profession - The Case For Regulation (Appendix C, page 51):

"The arrival of the “Part P” through the new Building Regulations for the Domestic Sector in 2005 opened the flood gates for around 100,000 poorly qualified "Domestic Installers" whose ultra short training programmes (one to three weeks typically) leaves them a world away from the capability of fully qualified Electrician who have learned their trade over four to five years."

It is no coincidence that a rise in consumer unit fires corresponds with the arrival into our industry of 'Domestic Installers'.

That doesn't explain the big leap from 11/12 to 12/13 in the stats though. Unless the work done after the change took a good few years to fail. A slow burn you could say.. leading to probably a fast burn.

That doesn't sound right though. There must have been another factor around that time that had an influence.

Not that it matters. Part P failed and worse still customers know of the term and accept it as some sort of guarantee of quality! I think public knowledge is partially to blame here. People naturally want to pay the least amount of money for the work done and they don't know enough to make an informed choice. All they know is they have heard of part P and if the spark has it, they sound like a good bet.

The core problem is that lawmakers want regulation and accreditation by default, but lose interest when it comes to policing it and making sure it is effective. We all know the answer is a period of job inspection after training but no one wants to spend the money or deal with logistics of making that happen.

 

[Deuce]

Aye ..... one would think that the opportunity for we Scots to get one up on you Sassenachs and stick two fingers up at Westminster would be too good to for the Scottish Government to resist. Knickerless Surgeon is missing-out on a diamond opportunity to win bragging rights that the innovative Scots are at the forefront of electrical safety and that primitive England lags a long way behind us.

I will admit you're an innovative race!! Although it's easy to make time for sitting indoors innovating when it's always pi**ing it down outside

 

[JK-Electrical]

I will admit you're an innovative race!! Although it's easy to make time for sitting indoors innovating when it's always pi**ing it down outside

Aye .... our innovation in pitch invasion is second to none.

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[Toneyz]

Been in the pub you obviously had known something that didn't or read.

Why the dumb?

 

[richy3333]

My apprentice is in his first of the 3 year college scheme to get qualified. On Friday we had to encounter a electrical trainee whom refers to himself as a 'fully qualified domestic electrician'. The chaps working on a 3ph 200A system. Go figure!

 

[Toneyz]

electrical trainee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JK-Electrical]

My apprentice is in his first of the 3 year college scheme to get qualified. On Friday we had to encounter a electrical trainee whom refers to himself as a 'fully qualified domestic electrician'. The chaps working on a 3ph 200A system. Go figure!

Just when you think it couldn't get any worse. Unbelievable.

 

[Deuce]

My apprentice is in his first of the 3 year college scheme to get qualified. On Friday we had to encounter a electrical trainee whom refers to himself as a 'fully qualified domestic electrician'. The chaps working on a 3ph 200A system. Go figure!

1 week per phase, don't see the problem. If you do a 4 week course you have time to learn what the green and yellow stripey one is for too

 

[Toneyz]

1 week per phase, don't see the problem. If you do a 4 week course you have time to learn what the green and yellow stripey one is for too

Is it supposed to do something? I've been cutting it off and taking down scrap yard for years get a bit more for the one that goes between the meter and consumer unit.

 

[Deuce]

Is it supposed to do something? I've been cutting it off and taking down scrap yard for years get a bit more for the one that goes between the meter and consumer unit.

Smart man. Some silly buggers keep it but I think the blue one does the same thing, so what's the point?

 

[MFS Electrical]

You are reading correctly, Murdoch. In Scotland, anyone can represent themselves as an electrician and then go do sub-standard electrical installation work in people's homes. MyBuilder and Rated People are full of wetpants, kitchen-fitters, bathroom-fitters, builders and handymen who all suffer from the delusion that they are competent electricians.

When even the competency in their own trade is severely lacking.

 

[MFS Electrical]

Aye ..... one would think that the opportunity for we Scots to get one up on you Sassenachs and stick two fingers up at Westminster would be too good to for the Scottish Government to resist. Knickerless Surgeon is missing-out on a diamond opportunity to win bragging rights that the innovative Scots are at the forefront of electrical safety and that primitive England lags a long way behind us.

I’m not going to lie I had to google what the h**l a Sassenach was sounds like a sly underhanded insult tbf

 

[MFS Electrical]

My apprentice is in his first of the 3 year college scheme to get qualified. On Friday we had to encounter a electrical trainee whom refers to himself as a 'fully qualified domestic electrician'. The chaps working on a 3ph 200A system. Go figure!

I really wish there was an oh dear button