Help needed to review quality of distributer box installation

[Isaac k]

Hi everyone,

I just had my distributer box upgraded to an RCD box, and I was wondering if anyone could advise me on the quality of the work done here. I know that changing these boxes is a nightmare to do, and truth be told our wiring was a mess before, but for the price we payed I don't believe there should be electrical tape and exposed wires coming out of the box. Also you can see the housing for the old night electricity box which they have decided to leave and they also chose not to cover the channel with all the exposed wires. I'm just curious to see what this forum's take is on this work, and if it was worth the £700 I payed for it.

Thanks!

(This is my first post, so if I am in the wrong category I apologise)

 

[SparkyChick]

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To be honest I'm not sure that's why i put it as a question in the end, i was thinking of eicr classification codes. i just don't see why unlabeled circuits significantly reduces the safety of an installation that's all.

My view is, the customer may turn off something and think they've isolated it. We have the luxury of the correct test gear so we can ensure it's dead, most customers don't.

In the event of a fault, faffing around trying to isolate the correct item could be the difference between no fire and a fire. Or... injury vs. death.

 

[Octopus]

The C3 code has now been removed and marked as N/A. Force of habit from doing lots of EICRs.

Removed from where ?

 

[DPG]

From his inspection report I think.

 

[JK-Electrical]

You cant polish a TURD fella

In that case I guess I'd better return this to eBay and get a refund.

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[JK-Electrical]

Removed from where ?

From the copy of the report that I sent to the OP this afternoon. The VCR that I uploaded to the forum was incomplete insofar that the OPs personal details and address hadn't yet been entered.

 

['mr2'gd4u]

So... a few days ago I posted this image of what I imagined could be going on beneath the cover:

And @JK-Electrical revealed this image of the actual work carried out:

Eerily close!

The number of times I've come across boards like this and advised the customer.. Most don't care
"it works doesn't it?"
"Yep it does for now, give it a while and you'll prob get a free firework display out of it too.."

 

['mr2'gd4u]

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To be honest I'm not sure that's why i put it as a question in the end, i was thinking of eicr classification codes. i just don't see why unlabeled circuits significantly reduces the safety of an installation that's all.

Because otherwise the dB won't know its safe and will self combust... Duh.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Top work JK!

Also, out of interest, I noted you put a C3 for the off peak board as it has a 63A 30ma RCD as Main Switch which feeds 3 x 16A MCB's supplying heaters. . Install is poor obviously lol, but can't see any issue with the selection of devices. What is it that you feel is not compliant with BS7671 with regard to selection ?

 

[JK-Electrical]

Top work JK!

Also, out of interest, I noted you put a C3 for the off peak board as it has a 63A 30ma RCD as Main Switch which feeds 3 x 16A MCB's supplying heaters. . Install is poor obviously lol, but can't see any issue with the selection of devices. What is it that you feel is not compliant with BS7671 with regard to selection ?

Thank you TJ.

Had it been me who did the install, I would have opted for a 100 amp main switch and three RCBOs, my reasoning being that should an overnight fault develop on any of the three heaters, or in any of the circuits supplying them, the homeowner doesn't wake-up one cold winter morning to a freezing flat! My decision is based solely on minimising inconvenience hence the 'improvement recommended' coding.

As an aside, I wouldn't have chosen the Axiom brand in the first place, and would have fitted a better-quality brand such as Hager, Wylex or Crabtree rather than this cheap crap from Toolstation. Given the amount that the customer was charged for this job, there can be no excuse for not fitting RCBOs.

 

[David Houston Blyth]

Did he replace both boards ie the little one at the bottom and the big one at tge top?

Yes both boards were replaced plus electric shower was also replaced in the bathroom.what i find strange is that the tails were hanging out of the gromits and one of the neutrals was exposed when they had been clearly hidden in the first place also the customer had already said that they had a previous electrician who done shawdy work as they put it and hadnt paid them!!why hadnt they contacted them to tell them about this but instead went onto a forum and tried to slate them !!!

 

[SparkyChick]

Yes both boards were replaced plus electric shower was also replaced in the bathroom.what i find strange is that the tails were hanging out of the gromits and one of the neutrals was exposed when they had been clearly hidden in the first place also the customer had already said that they had a previous electrician who done shawdy work as they put it and hadnt paid them!!why hadnt they contacted them to tell them about this but instead went onto a forum and tried to slate them !!!

Was the electric shower replaced? Don't recall seeing a mention of that in any of the posts thus far.

The OP didn't come onto the forum slating someone, they came on looking for some advice (although I suspect they knew what the answer would be).

What I do find quite interesting is this is your first post on the forums, you're in Glasgow, there's no electrical qualifications in your profile and the excess exclamation marks adding emphasis suggest you might be a little angry at potentially an individual not being paid for doing shoddy work and potentially for that individual getting a slating in public.

So I have to ask... are you the person who did the installation that has been photographed here? Your post makes me think maybe you might be.

 

[David Houston Blyth]

Yes both boards were replaced plus electric shower was also replaced in the bathroom.what i find strange is that the tails were hanging out of the gromits and one of the neutrals was exposed when they had been clearly hidden in the first place also the customer had already said that they had a previous electrician who done shawdy work as they put it and hadnt paid them!!why hadnt they contacted them to tell them about this but instead went onto a forum and tried to slate them !!!

Was the electric shower replaced? Don't recall seeing a mention of that in any of the posts thus far.

The OP didn't come onto the forum slating someone, they came on looking for some advice (although I suspect they knew what the answer would be).

What I do find quite interesting is this is your first post on the forums, you're in Glasgow, there's no electrical qualifications in your profile and the excess exclamation marks adding emphasis suggest you might be a little angry at potentially an individual not being paid for doing shoddy work and potentially for that individual getting a slating in public.

So I have to ask... are you the person who did the installation that has been photographed here? Your post makes me think maybe you might be.

No i wasn't the one who done the instalation but i was the one who fitted the shower on that job

 

[Isaac k]

Was the electric shower replaced? Don't recall seeing a mention of that in any of the posts thus far.

Forgot to mention that there was also a shower installation included in the price (£70), however the unit was purcased by myself

 

[SparkyChick]

No i wasn't the one who done the instalation but i was the one who fitted the shower on that job

Were you working directly for the client or were you working for the person who did the electrical work?

 

[David Houston Blyth]

Yeah,i find it strange that you never contacted the person who done the job but decided to post this on a forum instead