help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multimeter

[JUD]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

What's a DICR?

Domestic Installation Condition Report (new form replacing PIR certs)

And here's me thinking it was a typo :joker:

Never heard of it either. Is there also a DIC (Domestic Installation Certificate) :rofl:

 

[Octopus]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

NICEIC | Training | Electrical Installation Condition Report

But that would be a DEICR then.

 

[A&S Electrical]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

Yes it would !!!

 

[Spazz]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

As has been said by everyone - get an EICR done on the whole house (less than £200 in most cases).

Little hint - if you test between L/E or N/E you will be killed outright if you leave the power on!

Also as you are going to have to open the fuse box (CU) you will be right next to live wires - again these will kill you!


Get a spark out - even count the number of fuses you have (or switches) and post it on here with your location and Im sure everyone will post a price and if they can do it or not!

 

[telectrix]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

Little hint - if you test between L/E or N/E you will be killed outright if you leave the power on!

???????????? only if he tests with body parts, as he probably will do, using as multimeter with 1" long exposed probes.

 

[trev]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

Little hint - if you test between L/E or N/E you will be killed outright if you leave the power on!

Preposterous nonsense unless as Tel says he uses body parts to do this. How many times have you turned off what you thought was the correct circuit then found voltage present between L/E while confirming safe isolation. Did you explode or spontaneously combust?
Thought not

 

[Spazz]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

He is testing if he has a good earth or not! - is he not?

If he has a bad earth and connects L&E together then the fuse might not trip.

He is using 1inch bear probs (standard with all multimeters)

Question how would he join L&E togeather? prob using his hands!

What spec are his probs upto?


Think about these - he is looking at a quick grave!

On multimeters - there is no fuse on the cables anyway so hes looking for trouble!


Plus if hes looking for a good earth he dont want to do R1+R2 he wants to do a Zs test - using a Earth Loop Impedance Tester not a multimeter!

 

[telectrix]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

using a Earth Loop Impedance Tester not a multimeter!


:45:or a trusty neon screwdriver .

 

[trev]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

Yes he is trying to see if he has a good earth. I assume though that, working live, he is going to put the probes of his meter between L and CPC, if the meter is on the correct setting he will detect a voltage between the two. He will not go up in a big blue flash or vapourise. Scaremongering as you did does nothing to dispel his opinion that we may be out to rip him off as others have done in the past apparently
I'm not saying this is the correct way of doing it because we all know it is neither correct nor safe. This is the benefit of our years of training and experience, something which the OP does not have.

 

[Spazz]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

If you want to tell him how to do something then go ahead - but be ready for a blame claim if he is killed because of something you said.

Personally go to B&Q or a Electric Shop and you can get socket testers - that will tell you if its wired up correctly and you can also get some with Zs testers as well - safe to use.

Way better than sticking probs into sockets!

 

[trev]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

"If it's the former my best advice is to stop what you're doing mate and if you're not an electrician, get one in. It shouldn't be prohibitively expensive and may save a lot of heartache for your family."

I already told him the best course of action along with several others if you read through you'll see that apart from what I've quoted from one of my first posts here that I've given him no instruction on how to proceed. My conscience is clear and my fear of litigation is low

 

[Geordie Spark]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

If you want to tell him how to do something then go ahead - but be ready for a blame claim if he is killed because of something you said.

Personally go to B&Q or a Electric Shop and you can get socket testers - that will tell you if its wired up correctly and you can also get some with Zs testers as well - safe to use.

Way better than sticking probs into sockets!

What makes you think he's got sockets on his lighting circuit? mg_smile:

 

[telectrix]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

DIY'er. there's got to be sockets on the lighting circuit...:tongue3:

 

[Geordie Spark]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

DIY'er. there's got to be sockets on the lighting circuit...:tongue3:

Well I have to say when I was just a nipper in the early 1950s, our house did have a 2 pin socket in the kitchen that was somehow incorporated in the kitchen light switch that Mum used to plug her iron into.

She had an adaptor as well that enabled her to plug the iron into the living room light so in the winter she could do the ironing in front of the fire - instead of the cold kitchen !!!

 

[Top Cat]

Re: help please on testing ground and neutral wire on lighting circuits with a multim

Well I have to say when I was just a nipper in the early 1950s, our house did have a 2 pin socket in the kitchen that was somehow incorporated in the kitchen light switch that Mum used to plug her iron into.

She had an adaptor as well that enabled her to plug the iron into the living room light so in the winter she could do the ironing in front of the fire - instead of the cold kitchen !!!

Hi Geordie that sounds the same as when i grew up! The thing i remember is if we smelt gas my dad would light a match and run it over the gas pipes! Quite often he would have a little flame coming out of a joint in the pipe! Still hear to tell the tale though.