please read thread 21 electraserv not trying to be little you in any way ive read your threads many times and your obviously very qualified not douting that but if you would have served an apprenticeship like many have conduit was allways done by electricians you said any one can do conduit well i couldnt any every apprentice couldnt when they started they were taught by older electricians like my dad and guys is age to have a bubble and a dog leg in the same piece believe me took along long time to perfect its a true skill believe me so show some respect to the electrical industry there are enough people putting us down these days rant over