Hidden Kitchen Sockets

[Colin_K]

Just wondering if somebody can advise, as I'm not Part P approved (just 17th). A neighbour is in the process of redesigning his kitchen and now has 2 double switched sockets behind a fixed unit which feeds a fully electric oven, hob and microwave. The oven, hob and microwave being permanent fixtures. These sockets appear to be part of the ring main. Would I be correct in saying that they should be feed from an accessible switched fused spur instead?

 

[shocking_eg]

yep your right.

you should be able to get to the sockets to isolate the appliances without the need to remove the appliances first.

so SFCU for each appliance is probably a good idea. or relocate the sockets into a cupboard so there accessible from there

 

[Manfredmann]

Surely if its an electric hob, chances are it will be too juicy to be fed from a ring and will need its own dedicated circuit.

 

[Colin_K]

Just as I suspected. I'll pass that on to them. That'll cost them a few quid more !
Many thanx.

Not too sure about what current the hob draws, cant be much as it has attached cable with moulded 13amp plug on it.

 

[shocking_eg]

Missed the bit about the hob !!

Only 10KW on a plug top
It will be okay
Lol

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And your 17th and you didn't know this either ?? :S

 

[Colin_K]

Only just passed 17th, and still got loads to learn !

 

[telectrix]

it's probably a gas hob with electric supply for ignition.

 

[SYKRAPS]

Missed the bit about the hob !!

Only 10KW on a plug top
It will be okay
Lol

Are you sure about this comment? 10KW on a plugtop?

 

[Colin_K]

Nop, def all electric hob.

240v, 13amp, dont that make 1320 watt max. Ohms law.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Never come across a 13a all electric hob before......unless its only got one plate.....and 1320 watts?....230v x 13a=2990watts.

 

[Duncan Bennett]

Couldn't even imagine the size of flex for a 10kw appliance. Plug top terminals might prove a tad tight too!

 

[Colin_K]

Do'h, never was any good at maths ! :dozey:

 

[POWERFULL]

10KW / 230 Nominal Voltage = 43.47 Amp
Allowing for diversity 10 amp Plus 30% of remainder
=
43.47 -10 = 33.47 @ 33% = 11.04 +10.00 = Total 21.04 Amps.
Been retired 12 years and have yet to see a Plug top that can accommodate 21.04 amp rated Flex.
Read and comply to the regs.
Having 17th Edition does not and will never make you an electrician.
You need the equivelant of the old A,B & C. certificates.
Part "P" to technicians ike myself means partly qualified, ie the 12 week wonder

 

[Deleted member 9648]

10KW / 230 Nominal Voltage = 43.47 Amp
Allowing for diversity 10 amp Plus 30% of remainder
=
43.47 -10 = 33.47 @ 33% = 11.04 +10.00 = Total 21.04 Amps.
Been retired 12 years and have yet to see a Plug top that can accommodate 21.04 amp rated Flex.
Read and comply to the regs.
Having 17th Edition does not and will never make you an electrician.
You need the equivelant of the old A,B & C. certificates.
Part "P" to technicians ike myself means partly qualified, ie the 12 week wonder

Except part P is not a qualification......thought you'd know that being a technician and all.

 

[shocking_eg]

i was actually joking about the plug top bit ! LOL