How do I get gas safe?

[sam400]

Hi all, I work for a few local plumbers and have found myself doing more and more boiler repairs, a lot of the breakdowns are electrical so there not interested, (I did try and show one how to use a multimeter once but gave up! Lol)
They take the cover off, I repair it, then they put the cover back on. Its not ideal, as we can't always meet at same time, gets expensive having 2 trades on site etc etc
anyway the long and short of it would prefer to do it on my own,
is it possible to do an gas appliance course and get gas safe that way or do I have to do the whole lot?
Please forgive my ignorance I have no idea how gas safe registration works.

thanks

sam

 

[Silly Sausage]

...Small quiz then...how does the water circulate ?:conehead:

Is he thinking of that perpetual motion water machine, where one side is fatter than the other? :smilielol5:

 

[PEG]

I just hope he does not mention heat rising,or it's a detention :icon12:

 

[Geordie Spark]

...Small quiz then...how does the water circulate ?:conehead:

Gravity.

Hot water is less dense than cold water so rises up the pipe and falls back as it cools hence the term gravity fed.

It's an old fashioned sytem that often gets converted to be "fully pumped" nowadays

 

[Silly Sausage]

Gravity.

Hot water is less dense than cold water so rises up the pipe and falls back as it cools hence the term gravity fed.

It's an old fashioned sytem that often gets converted to be "fully pumped" nowadays

You're screwed when it hits the 4 degree C and below mark though!



And it's convection

 

[Geordie Spark]

You're screwed when it hits the 4 degree C and below mark though!



And it's convection

Yes it is "convection" but in plumberspeak its "gravity"

clivvor shyte!!

 

[Silly Sausage]

Yes it is "convection" but in plumberspeak its "gravity"

clivvor shyte!!

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[PEG]

Gravity.

Hot water is less dense than cold water so rises up the pipe and falls back as it cools hence the term gravity fed.

It's an old fashioned system that often gets converted to be "fully pumped" nowadays

Yep,get a star. It never fails to surprise me,how many plumbers,some good uns' too,do not understand that it is the MASS of the colder,denser water,that pushes,through pipe design,the lighter,hot water up.
...We all could be in a casino,now...but look what we are doing...my play-boy grandad would have been VERY disappointed :beatnik2:

 

[Geordie Spark]

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You're kidding right???

I am WAYYYY above that lot!!!

I would find it just too easy to take the pee out of them whereas on here it's a little bit harder.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Who said Casino? Where? I love a bit of gambling.

 

[Silly Sausage]

You're kidding right???

You should know by now, I never jest!

 

[Knobhead]

why haven't you asked any of the plumbers you do the repairs for?

Good question, I wonder what the answer will be :smilewinkgrin:

I'm glad you asked it, it safes me doing so.

 

[PEG]

^^ If i was going through his witness statement,i would have to presume,the "plumbers" are not fully trained in boiler/system repair,or would not require training in the use of a multimeter. They would more than likely not be Gas-safe registered,as the bulk of that work,in domestic,is boiler related. They therefore would not be in a position to advise on training to register...
The OP posted a decent enough ask,and i hope he proceeds with the necessary paperwork,to enable him to legitimately earn a living,probing folks old boilers.
...Went a bit "Sid James" at the end...

 

[Engineer54]

Gas Engineer Courses, Gas Safe Quality Training For Engineers at ECTA


£2500 + estimate

Ok that's for ''Engineers'', .....what about Gas Fitters, and Plumbers?? lol!!

 

[jamie-spark]

Hi all, I work for a few local plumbers and have found myself doing more and more boiler repairs, a lot of the breakdowns are electrical so there not interested, (I did try and show one how to use a multimeter once but gave up! Lol)
They take the cover off, I repair it, then they put the cover back on. Its not ideal, as we can't always meet at same time, gets expensive having 2 trades on site etc etc
anyway the long and short of it would prefer to do it on my own,
is it possible to do an gas appliance course and get gas safe that way or do I have to do the whole lot?
Please forgive my ignorance I have no idea how gas safe registration works.

thanks

sam

Look here
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...8QFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGuG_9bG9KR_kgwIk8hGUXfyRbMkw

 

[snowhead]

To the O.P

It's not cheap and not quick to get to a position where you can register as Gassafe.
Even more so if you are going to be self employed.
Re-assessment is every 5 years.

You'd need a substantial amount of regular work to justify it.

The time consuming part is the portfolio of witnessed onsite work required.
You'll be lucky to complete the whole thing in less than 6months.

You'll need Nvq 3 to even get to the training, you'll be classed as a category 3 entrant, nil experience.

Then to do Domestic boilers you only need;

CCN1 Core Safety
CENWAT (Ignore references to CPA1 (flue gas analysis), it's now included in CCN1)

Plus a protfolio of work.

However the portfolio covers all appliances as once you have CCN1 you can add any other appliances later.

http://bpec.org.uk/downloads/gasassessment_8_4051499173.pdf

As self employed you have to register the business and also the Operative and you're on probation as a newly registered business


I got Corgi , and now Gassafe before all Portfolio /NVQ started, and worked for a company who employed gas engineers.