How many eicr in a day

[magnoliafan89]

Hi guys whats your take of how many EICRs can be done properly in a day average of 5 to 8 circuits ranging from 1 bed flats to 3 bed houses?? This would also include travel and also doing any repairs whilst there?

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

I always allow a day for a domestic EICR, no matter the size. 95% of the ones I carry out are social housing so if I get finished a couple of hours earlier I can usually get a couple of the observations done with my spare time to finish the day off knowing they will send me back to get a satisfactory cert anyway. You never know what your going to find in the house furniture and cleanliness wise. There’s always a couple of observations to do, or even swapping the smokes as there close to expiration.

 

[Zerax]

Of course I jumped at the opportunity to distance myself from such an unholy offer. Lack of ethics lies at the bottom of the 3 a day.

But sadly... they'll be a queue of people happy to do it in your place...

 

[magnoliafan89]

I would like to follow the guy who can do 5 a day. We all need our 5 a day apparently. I guess I would find a load of stuff that was missed. But then that is standard procedure. Maybe the young ones don't feel as worried as us older ones that omissions could lead to serious injury or death. As to the testing part, inspection is more looking and checking than testing so much. I was (indirectly via another spark) offered the same type of work with the same requirements. This was from a large housing maintenance group. They had sacked the guy like you @magnoliafan89 because he was finding too much work to do! They wanted people who got the forms filled, and as explained to me the guy was winking at the spark who offered me the work. Of course I jumped at the opportunity to distance myself from such an unholy offer. Lack of ethics lies at the bottom of the 3 a day.

I know just what you mean. Unfortunately the lad doing 5 a day is actually older than me lol.
I was happy plodding along doing it the old way
I know how it'll play out though theyd rather listen to the guy who can do 5 drive bys thus meaning more work is essentially ticked off instead of actually allowing us to carry out good quality work.

 

[Mike Johnson]

"They" have a responsibility to Health and Safety to their clients and someone in the organisation is responsible for that, have a word with them it may scare "they" enough to do something about it.

 

[richy3333]

5 a day? No problem. Just drive by, sit in maccys car park to write up.

Even a team of two, doing two a day is pushing it.
quick visual, global IR to earth only.... ze, rcd tests, check switches work. Write down a lot of limitations cos you’re not moving furniture. Cup of tea, if the cups clean.....
I wouldn’t be signing any report done like that.

Totally agree with my southern friend.

£125-£150 per property = race to the bottom IMHO

 

[JBW175]

I'd rather charge a reasonable price, do a thorough job and have a clear conscience, than be that cheap. Even if that means missing out on work....

The customers not getting value for money imo; by paying prices that cheap they're getting a rushed job, full of LIM & NV that could potentially be dangerous.

 

[Andy78]

At my pace and thoroughness I aim for 1-2 domestic inspections a day max 3 bed house, max 8 circuits per house.
This would not include remedials. As said above, any repair work could take any amount of time so is impossible to factor in.

The most I have ever done is 3-4 a day. These were one bed properties of identical format, pre arranged access, 4 circuits per property, 2 men testing and no remedial work.

Mr 5 a day will be doing a few Zs and RCD tests and possibly look behind a couple of sockets. By the time the paperwork is done that's all there is time for.

 

[SparkyAndGeorge]

We were expected to do 4 a day whilst working for a nationwide council contractor.

 

[Mike Johnson]

It's a shame an EICR does not come under the CDM Regulations the client who forces four a day on a contractor could be taken to task by the HSE for not allowing a reasonable time for the work to be carried out.

 

[Dustydazzler]

If anyone wanted 5 houses done a day it would only be a quick visual inspection of the board & visible accessories , no furniture moved , no going in the loft and Only a quick Ze at the board And Zs test On one point of each circuit (Plus rcd test if they have one).
could do that in about an hour then 45 mins to write it up and onto the next house...

 

[Baddegg]

An inevitable consequence for the donut putting his mane to these 5 certs is is the next manger in will want better performance and the work load will keep going up till he breaks, let him crack on with!....

 

[Dustydazzler]

An inevitable consequence for the donut putting his mane to these 5 certs is is the next manger in will want better performance and the work load will keep going up till he breaks, let him crack on with!....

just like the knuckleheads who profess to being able to 1st fix a new house in a day...
They Are just screwing themselves

 

[Mike Johnson]

Thinking about it a bit more, why would the work carried out by an Electrician not be covered by the CDM Regulations, it does stand for "Construction Design and Management" and apply to all Domestic work, could be an interesting test case, I nominate ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[Vortigern]

Effectively then, things are moving (moved?) toward Exceptionally Inadequate Condition Report. Just tick the boxes and unless there is smoke coming out of the CU give it a pass. Due to legal requirements and stingy LLs. their is no real intent to check whether the installation is in a condition for continued use. Maybe things should change so the LIM and NV are not acceptable anymore. I have seen forms with LIM all over them. In one case it was because the DB was halfway between a suspended ceiling and the room so they could not even open the door. I had to rectify and re-inspect that one!

 

[ferg]

Effectively then, things are moving (moved?) toward Exceptionally Inadequate Condition Report. Just tick the boxes and unless there is smoke coming out of the CU give it a pass. Due to legal requirements and stingy LLs. their is no real intent to check whether the installation is in a condition for continued use. Maybe things should change so the LIM and NV are not acceptable anymore. I have seen forms with LIM all over them. In one case it was because the DB was halfway between a suspended ceiling and the room so they could not even open the door. I had to rectify and re-inspect that one!

Is smoke a fail?
Bugger ! I better change todays paperwork.