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JimCee

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Hi,
My son has just (last week) had a rewire done on his house in Leyland. He has just bought the house but a "domino" type consumer unit was spotted and so a rewire was deemed necessary.
He wanted to move in with his girlfriend and 2 month old son as quickly as possible so phoned a website to get electricians to call him with quotes based on the job being done ASAP.
Electrician gave him a quote £3000 and he accepted - work could be done the following week. The day arrived and was completed in the day by "a load of very young people" and the house was in a right state.
They have run 4 spurs in the house which I thought was pretty poor for a rewire and I don't know if this is to regulations.
But the real problem came when I was reboarding the loft. There were a load of chopped wires in the way of the boards so I pulled them back as far as possible and cut them further back. Whilst pulling the wires, the skirting board fell off. Behind the skirting board, there was a hole in the plaster board and an old fashioned connection block (with screws) fell out as did the ends of 2 conductors. One of the 3 wires that came out of this block was in the way of the boards. As conductors had dropped out, obviously an old wire I thought and so started cutting it with my electrical cutters and the upstairs socket ring tripped.
On investigation, the new upstairs socket ring has been cut, the earth conductors cut back - breaking the earth ring, the positive and neutral conductors having been pushed into the connector but not screwed down properly and the cable that I had cut - upon tracing was actually an open live cable - just lying under the loft insulation.
Looking round, the new lighting circuit has been extended - also by means of an old fashioned type connector block with screws in and taped up.
I was furious and phoned the electrician who between my rants told me that it was perfectly reasonable to extend the lighting circuit by means of a taped up connector block with screws to secure the conductors.
The electrician has given my son an electrical certificate (which I haven't seen and probably wouldn't understand) but on reading info on the internet, I cannot understand how he has done a test with the earth conductors on the upstairs ring being cut back at the loose connection block breaking the circuit.
The guy is coming back on Monday to "have a look what is going on" but apart from being outright dangerous with an open ended live cable, are the old fashioned screw type connector blocks acceptable - whether taped or un-taped, are spurs to standard and can I report this guy and if so, who to?
Thanks for any advice,
Jim.
 
That wire is in between 2 sockets in the loft - and the earth wires have just been cut off so unsure how he got his readings?
I would strongly suggest you seek legal advice on this.
 
He is supposedly coming tomorrow to fix it - or do you think it’s too bad for him to simply “just fix”? If I were to take legal advice would I need to get someone to come out an inspect it?
The concern is he previously said it was ok to join cables with connector blocks wrapped in tape. I'm not aware that this has ever been an approved practice. (Though it was normal to tape soldered joints used on cleated wiring for example, but that has been obsolete for at least 60 years.)

This isn't a simple mistake someone has made. There are several problems shown in the photos of the connectors and it appears they were deliberately intended to be that way. No one for example accidentally cuts all the earth wires out of cables they are joining.

And is he going to retest the entire installation, and fill in the Electrical Installation Certificate fully and correctly? As a rewire is notifiable work, he must then provide a Building Regulations Compliance Certificate (this certificate will take a few days to come through).

Edit: Most legal advice, and advice from the most membership schemes will be to give the company a chance to correct all the problems first, then the legal action comes after that if the problems are not corrected properly.
 
He is supposedly coming tomorrow to fix it - or do you think it’s too bad for him to simply “just fix”? If I were to take legal advice would I need to get someone to come out an inspect it?
Don't let him touch it. @UNG has offered his services to look at this and I suggest you take him up on is offer. Anyone who undertakes work like this is masquerading as an electrician and is dangerous.
 
If it were my house I would sack off the original electricians and pay a proper electrician to come round , check everthing , test everyting and re-wire the bits that need re-wiring
 
He is supposedly coming tomorrow to fix it - or do you think it’s too bad for him to simply “just fix”? If I were to take legal advice would I need to get someone to come out an inspect it?
A “just fix” may mean just making it harder to find the bodges.

For a few hundred quid, get a reputable electrician to perform an EICR on the installation as it stands… one that will stand up in court if it comes to it.

You’re going to have a fight on your hands… but these people need rooted out of the industry and punished.
 
A “just fix” may mean just making it harder to find the bodges.

For a few hundred quid, get a reputable electrician to perform an EICR on the installation as it stands… one that will stand up in court if it comes to it.

You’re going to have a fight on your hands… but these people need rooted out of the industry and punished.
I wouldn't hold my breath thou , I have seen and tried to help home owners get sh!t work looked at by the Scams and never has one reported case that I have know of come to anything.
In every single case the homeowner has had to pay twice to get the sh!it original work full re-done by another electrician
 
I wouldn't hold my breath thou , I have seen and tried to help home owners get sh!t work looked at by the Scams and never has one reported case that I have know of come to anything.
In every single case the homeowner has had to pay twice to get the sh!it original work full re-done by another electrician
It's sad that this is common. At one point we were following around a company carrying out awful work redoing and correcting etc. We tried to report them to their membership scheme but were told we couldn't as we didn't order the work. Most elderly customers don't want the extra stress of reporting, and end up paying twice. Fortunately the company is no longer trading.

Another local company was carrying out appalling fire alarm alterations, often leaving previously working systems with faults they couldn't find. It was common to find EOL devices moved to the control panel on systems they had worked on. I've just seen they are also now out of business, thank goodness.
 
He is supposedly coming tomorrow to fix it - or do you think it’s too bad for him to simply “just fix”? If I were to take legal advice would I need to get someone to come out an inspect it?

If you take legal advice then they will advise you on what you must do, or can do, as a next step in this.

As far as I know, and this is not legal advice, the start of the process is to make a formal complaint and allow them the opportunity to put right any unsatisfactory work.
 

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