How to deal with Pyro Cable?

[Mattja]

Situation is there's some 53 year old pyro cable that I need to either remove, or make dead, or cut short and push back into the wall having ensured that the still-live end cannot short out the circuit or come into contact with anything.

No hope of fully removing it, as it goes up the cavity and I don't even know the route it takes.
Chances of finding the junction box that connects it to the downstairs power ring are remote, I suspect it connects at a junction box fixed into the wall behind fixed cupboards, next to pipes, in a kitchen, and below the bath (bathroom above the kitchen), however I cannot be sure. I also am not sure I can take the cupboards down without damaging them (I'm no carpenter/kitchen fitter).

SKIP TO THE POINT:

The obvious thing to do seems to be to cut the cable just after it leaves the outside house, fix the end in such a way that it's not going to short the circuit or make live anything it comes into contact with, and shove it back into the wall (then cement over it). I've not had to deal with pyro before, how would you recommend going about this?

 

[Deleted member 93172]

When I first started using MICC there were no "joystrippers" around, we had to use a larger version of a corned beef can key opener and a ringing tool.

 

[westward10]

Noooooo! Don't say that! It's still here it's still here!

I know I know

 

[Gnasher]

Whenever you come across copper pyro always inform the client that the whole lot has to be pulled out and replaced. No fafing about remove the whole lot end of.

Why.

Seems an odd thing to say with qualifying your statement.

 

[Darkwood]

When I first started using MICC there were no "joystrippers" around, we had to use a larger version of a corned beef can key opener and a ringing tool.

That was the first thing we made in college in the 80's, a 5mm rod, hacksaw a slot in the end and bend the other end over for a handle, I actually preferred it more than the joy stripper when they popped up on the scene.

 

[Pete999]

Whenever you come across copper pyro always inform the client that the whole lot has to be pulled out and replaced. No fafing about remove the whole lot end of.

Rubbish

 

[Pete999]

That was the first thing we made in college in the 80's, a 5mm rod, hacksaw a slot in the end and bend the other end over for a handle, I actually preferred it more than the joy stripper when they popped up on the scene.

Started by using a pair of side cutters

 

[holychihuahua]

Whenever you come across copper pyro always inform the client that the whole lot has to be pulled out and replaced. No fafing about remove the whole lot end of.

http://www.leicester.anglican.org/site-includes/uploads/wygwam/Electrical Wiring Installations in Churches (CBC).pdf

 

[Leesparkykent]

Whenever you come across copper pyro always inform the client that the whole lot has to be pulled out and replaced. No fafing about remove the whole lot end of.

Yeah you've already stated that and its complete bollox.

 

[westward10]

Yeah you've already stated that and its complete bollox.

He is a plumber.

 

[holychihuahua]

Old churches have lots of real wood on show not painted. The pews, big doors, the alter beams across the ceiling. Bare micc with no plastic sleave and not painted looks perfect there. The copper micc with brass screws in the clips totally blends in with the wood colours.

 

[westward10]

Old churches have lots of real wood on show not painted. The pews, big doors, the alter beams across the ceiling. Bare micc with no plastic sleave and not painted looks perfect there. The copper micc with brass screws in the clips totally blends in with the wood colours.

It is an education at times.

 

[Pete999]

Whenever you come across copper pyro always inform the client that the whole lot has to be pulled out and replaced. No fafing about remove the whole lot end of.

Why do you make that statement holychiuahua, is it because you are not capable working with it, or some other reason, for the second time your statement id claptrap, it has the ring of a Electrical Trainee about it.

 

[Pete999]

 

[Diddy]

I can remember a time when all english heritage sites were only wired in micc. Loved them jobs. Obviously as well we always used micc for fire alarms and emergency lighting ect ect ect.
As said today it is still used in churches, sauna's, boats ect ect.Blends in very nicely with wood and sandstone ect.
Someone in jest earlier said about working with fp200 lol...well maybe im strange but i actually find working with fp more of a faff than working with micc.
I can't believe how quickly the training setup has moved on from teaching micc to not even mentioning it's very existence....There is bloody thousands of miles of the stuff in everyday use in the uk right now lol and there are still plenty designers and architects that spec it....I mean I can understand not teaching an apprentice how to make off a lead twin and earth.....But this situation is just madness. Oh well more beer money for people like me in the next ten years then lol...wonder what a "fair" rate will be for a dead "art" lol.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Old churches have lots of real wood on show not painted. The pews, big doors, the alter beams across the ceiling. Bare micc with no plastic sleave and not painted looks perfect there. The copper micc with brass screws in the clips totally blends in with the wood colours.

They do this in the public areas of the Barbican.