I never install ring circuits, the potential for danger is unacceptable

[ZEDEZ]

I’d like to know if anyone else here refuses to install ring circuits in domestic premises.

For me it’s either a 20a radial / tree circuit with 2.5mm, or a 32 radial / tree circuit with 4.0mm.

Frankly I’m tired of finding broken ring circuits on 32a CB’s, as well as mismatches on end to end tests. It drives me nuts on jobs that should be simple.

I wish we would get rid of this ridiculous practice here in the UK.

I know some of you will say there’s nothing wrong with it when it’s properly installed and tested, but inevitably at some point in the future someone will come along and disconnect a conductor unknowingly while changing outlets on the circuit.

Testing is more complicated, and diagnosing faults on a ring also.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Thought everyone had been on a Ryanair at least once. It was harmless humour, board waiting for dinner.

 

[Pete999]

OH OK thanks

 

[GBDamo]

HARD HAT ON

A Ring Final is intrinsically unsafe in that it can be inadvertently, damaged in such a manner as to overload the cable on the undamaged leg.

There is no denying or getting away from this FACT.

They are an anachronism, a stop gap belonging to a bygone era.

The simplest test, and one rings fail, is;-

IF THEY DIDN'T EXIST WOULD THEY BE INTRODUCED TODAY?

No sane person would answer yes.

They offer very little advantage over Radials yet, as stated, are intrinsically unsafe.

 

[GBDamo]

HARD HAT ON

A Ring Final is intrinsically unsafe in that it can be inadvertently, damaged in such a manner as to overload the cable on the undamaged leg.

There is no denying or getting away from this FACT.

They are an anachronism, a stop gap belonging to a bygone era.

The simplest test, and one rings fail, is;-

IF THEY DIDN'T EXIST WOULD THEY BE INTRODUCED TODAY?

No sane person would answer yes.

They offer very little advantage over Radials yet, as stated, are intrinsically unsafe.

 

[Pete999]

HARD HAT ON

A Ring Final is intrinsically unsafe in that it can be inadvertently, damaged in such a manner as to overload the cable on the undamaged leg.

There is no denying or getting away from this FACT.

They are an anachronism, a stop gap belonging to a bygone era.

The simplest test, and one rings fail, is;-

IF THEY DIDN'T EXIST WOULD THEY BE INTRODUCED TODAY?

No sane person would answer yes.

They offer very little advantage over Radials yet, as stated, are intrinsically unsafe.

Especially when lots of people aren't sure on how to test them and if they do know how to interoperate any results.

 

[telectrix]

I did but never the cheapo airlines, anyway what's that got to do with my question, trying to win some points?

pete. every time i see one of your posts, reminds me of this title:

 

[GBDamo]

Especially when lots of people aren't sure on how to test them and if they do know how to interoperate any results.

Sure being able to test one allows us to feel superior.

But it always amazes me that rings are defended with such passion, it's like I've just called their pint a puff.

 

[Pete999]

pete. every time i see one of your posts, reminds me of this title:

In what way Tel, Nice, Nasty or what

 

[chrisdungan]

Opinion from a Kiwi.
Found rings to be a bit strange when I started work in Eire. Decided they have their uses especiaĺly for simple installs like a 2 story 3 bed terrace. Anything much bigger they're a pain in the arse. Those fused plugtops are a pain too and so bulky.
My biggest concern tho is how half brained drongo without any training can call themselves a Sharkie and start wiring

 

[HappyHippyDad]

@GBDamo I love the way that 2 people disagreed with your post #93, yet when you posted a replica immediately afterwards (post #94) 3 people disagreed with it. I would stop now!

 

[Pete999]

Opinion from a Kiwi.
Found rings to be a bit strange when I started work in Eire. Decided they have their uses especiaĺly for simple installs like a 2 story 3 bed terrace. Anything much bigger they're a pain in the arse. Those fused plugtops are a pain too and so bulky.
My biggest concern tho is how half brained drongo without any training can call themselves a Sharkie and start wiring

A winner for the last Paragraph, don't agree with the first bit though, should that be Sparkie and not Sharkie?

 

[DPG]

Did someone just criticise the UK 13A plug (plug top)? It's widely recognised as the best in the world!

 

[GBDamo]

@GBDamo I love the way that 2 people disagreed with your post #93, yet when you posted a replica immediately afterwards (post #94) 3 people disagreed with it. I would stop now!

Yes but I know who they are....

And am currently working on where they live, swines.

 

[DPG]

To be fair GBdamo, I normally agree with most of your posts, but you're wrong on the ring final

 

[GBDamo]

To be fair GBdamo, I normally agree with most of your posts, but you're wrong on the ring final

Oh you can't sweet talk your way out of this sunshine.

I'm like Bricktop on steroids when I can get me arse of the sofa.