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Willbowling

Hi, just wondering if anyone can tell me what is wrong with my plan, i want a shaver socket in my bathroom, my thoughts were that a wire could be taken off a plug socket in the bedroom up the wall then through the single brick internal wall into an isolator switch that would be neatly next to the extractor fan isolator (presumably a rcd or rcbo in a box?), then wired down the wall and behind the skirting board to then be vertically channeled up to the shaver socket.

so I'm thinking that this is a relatively small job and should be fairly cheap, I'm redecorating the bathroom as it is so there are no skirting boards and i can do the channel and there is no making good for the sparky to worry about as this will be done anyway.

so anyway the reason I'm asking is because i had a guy come round and do me a quote for the job, i told him my thoughts but he muttered a bit and he has now quoted me for bringing a separate wire from the cellar cu and putting the switch isolator in the corridor (which i don't mind), but this seems like an expensive way around my job and seems like he is creating work for himself. I can't see a problem with my plan but don't want to accuse him of trying to rip me off and end up looking like an idiot.

power for the shaver socket cant come from the light circuit btw, as the ceiling is not very accessible.

so, whats your thoughts? Am i missing something or am i being taken for a ride?
 
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Nobody wants to chase deep into the brick and start using steel conduit so all the cable has to run in "safe zones".
Behind the skirting board is never going to be a safe zone. Can't answer for the rest.
If I were you; I'd get hold of a copy of the "On Site Guide" (the green one) and plan where to run the cables - and - get more quotes from electricians. The more you talk to the more you will understand the nature of the problem.

Hope that helps
Laurie
 
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As Laurie suggests another quote is probably a good idea. Regarding the first price, the sparky may have determined that the run from the cellar CU is easier to do.

Very difficult to give advice without seeing the job.
 
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Ok, so why not run the cable round the top of the room in the safe zone and then down to the socket instead of up to it?

Thanks for the advice so far, i will go for another quote but just to be clear, there's no problem with having the isolator / rcd device in the bathroom is there? Next to my other isolator? There is three metres to the shower and near two meters to the sink.
 
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Why not take the supply for the shaving socket off the lighting circuit, either from the hall/passage lighting point or the bathroom?? What are we talking about here, a 100VA max!! lol!!
 
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Haha, i get your point engineer54 but the lighting circuit is hard to get to, it would be easier to get from the cellar as there is already trunking running up which is accessible.

The reason i ask about the isolator being in the bathroomis although i don't mind it being in the corridor, it would stand out and in the bathroom it would be next to the existing one.
 
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The loft is a bedroom, there are cupboards / walls in the way of getting near the lights on the below floor, there is no light in the corridor leading to the bathroom. I did say in my original post and now twice subsequently that the lighting circuit is out of the equation.

Since there seems to be no problem with my original plan, I'll get another quote and see what the next one says, i really do think first guy is just making work for himself and making the job a bit more worth it. Thanks all.
 
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easiest option is to buy a rechargeable shaver. charge it in any socket in the house. use in bathroom.
 
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if he connects it to the ring main he's got to test the ring main then he's got to put right any faults on the ring, he would also have to source a 32a rcbo that would fit your board which is easier said than done. if he runs a new circuit then he can just use a rcd fcu and he knows the circuit wont have any faults on it. so it may actually work out cheaper for you in the end.
 
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That's such a man thing! Lights are always accessible and you don't have to get floors up to do it. I've completely rewired lighting circuits in middle floor flats...definitely can't get floors up then!!
 
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dave274 said:
if he connects it to the ring main he's got to test the ring main then he's got to put right any faults on the ring, he would also have to source a 32a rcbo that would fit your board which is easier said than done. if he runs a new circuit then he can just use a rcd fcu and he knows the circuit wont have any faults on it. so it may actually work out cheaper for you in the end.
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Did I miss something? How do you know it's a ring, and that it's not already RCD protected?

If he runs a new circuit why would anyone use an RCD FCU??? There ugly as sin? And if you're coming from the consumer unit that's usually the place to site an RCD!?!
 
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Willbowling said:
Hi, just wondering if anyone can tell me what is wrong with my plan, i want a shaver socket in my bathroom, my thoughts were that a wire could be taken off a plug socket in the bedroom up the wall then through the single brick internal wall into an isolator switch that would be neatly next to the extractor fan isolator (presumably a rcd or rcbo in a box?), then wired down the wall and behind the skirting board to then be vertically channeled up to the shaver socket.

so I'm thinking that this is a relatively small job and should be fairly cheap, I'm redecorating the bathroom as it is so there are no skirting boards and i can do the channel and there is no making good for the sparky to worry about as this will be done anyway.

so anyway the reason I'm asking is because i had a guy come round and do me a quote for the job, i told him my thoughts but he muttered a bit and he has now quoted me for bringing a separate wire from the cellar cu and putting the switch isolator in the corridor (which i don't mind), but this seems like an expensive way around my job and seems like he is creating work for himself. I can't see a problem with my plan but don't want to accuse him of trying to rip me off and end up looking like an idiot.

power for the shaver socket cant come from the light circuit btw, as the ceiling is not very accessible.

so, whats your thoughts? Am i missing something or am i being taken for a ride?
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I don't think your guy knew what he was talking about full stop. Why fit an isolator for a shaver socket- NEVER SEEN THAT DONE BEFORE!
 
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It usually takes about 12-15 posts to on average to pick the bones out of there post, and get to the matter. To be fair some earlier than others.

If the board is rcd protected then spur off the socket. If the board is not rcd protected then put an rcd spur off the socket. Because it seems this is they way you want to wire it regardless of any quote.

Good luck in your project.
 
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FOR THE LAST TIME, THE LIGHTING CIRCUIT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE!

i already said this three times, not listening, it's such a woman thing...

i don't want to waste my or anyone elses time with lengthy explanation but it is not happening.
 
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Thanks to all who have posted, I'm happy with the info i have and will get on to another spark when i have time. I consider this thread answered and closed.
 
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Will there are numerous electricians in nottingham on here myself and dillb off the top of my head but there are others. The lighting might not be accessible to you but electricians have magic on there side ( and cable rods ). Kate is right there always a way to access to lights you just have to know what your doing. By the time you've done talking about it though you could be a Electrical Trainee and certify it yourself.
 
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Ha ha I dont even know how to get quotes up and yes I prefer to rarely get it wrong and then if I do it quicker its quids in and no one ever gets a nasty shock (on my work or price)
 
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Best option, get another quote or two and compare the propoals both in terms of how they do it and how much. Make sure they are NICEIC registered though.
 
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dave274 said:
if he connects it to the ring main he's got to test the ring main then he's got to put right any faults on the ring, he would also have to source a 32a rcbo that would fit your board which is easier said than done. if he runs a new circuit then he can just use a rcd fcu and he knows the circuit wont have any faults on it. so it may actually work out cheaper for you in the end.
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IR & Zs....so...whats wrong with that?
 
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GLENNSPARK im just offering up a reason why the electrician may have wanted to do it a different way, im not saying he is right or wrong. if the customer has a problem with what he wants to do then he should speak to him personally instead of assuming hes trying to pull a fast one.
 
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