Identify this head unit

[leebut]

Hi guys


Came to do the testing on small bathroom lighting job today and I was confronted with this old piece of scrap iron.

I’ve never come across one of these before, so I’m asking you guys for confirmation of what I think what it is I’m looking for the type and BS number and amperage, so I can fill out my certificate, my thoughts are it’s a Bs 3036 semi enclosed rewire able fuses and guessing the fuse wire has been upgraded in the past from 30 amp to probably 60 amp.

I’ve already told my customer that they need to contact Electricity North West to have the head unit replaced as soon as possible for two reasons, the Bitumen has tracked back into the head and the live fuse is fully enclosed in the bitumen at the bottom and cannot be removed and the second reason it’s a fused neutral supply that’s no longer allowed be installed.

Cheers


Lee

 

[Marvo]

The bitumen wouldn't be my first worry. Beware asbestos flash guard pads.
Also if there's a fuse in the neutral it should be removed and a blank inserted although this would probably be a job for the DNO.....
Finally I wouldn't mess that incoming cable or the earth wire that's attached even if it does require upgrading. That type of cable is usually fine until it's disturbed, at which point all bets are off.

 

[Dustydazzler]

One of those new smart cut out ?

 

[leebut]

The bitumen wouldn't be my first worry. Beware asbestos flash guard pads.
Also if there's a fuse in the neutral it should be removed and a blank inserted although this would probably be a job for the DNO.....
Finally I wouldn't mess that incoming cable or the earth wire that's attached even if it does require upgrading. That type of cable is usually fine until it's disturbed, at which point all bets are off.

I’ve already told the customer to get in touch with the DNO I’ve no intensional of touching anything in the head unit I just need to finish my certificate so I can register the installation, there was no seal on the front of the head unit I only opened it up to see what the Bs number was

 

[Pete999]

Hi guys


Came to do the testing on small bathroom lighting job today and I was confronted with this old piece of scrap iron.

I’ve never come across one of these before, so I’m asking you guys for confirmation of what I think what it is I’m looking for the type and BS number and amperage, so I can fill out my certificate, my thoughts are it’s a Bs 3036 semi enclosed rewire able fuses and guessing the fuse wire has been upgraded in the past from 30 amp to probably 60 amp.

I’ve already told my customer that they need to contact Electricity North West to have the head unit replaced as soon as possible for two reasons, the Bitumen has tracked back into the head and the live fuse is fully enclosed in the bitumen at the bottom and cannot be removed and the second reason it’s a fused neutral supply that’s no longer allowed be installed.

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Cheers


Lee

Wrong forum Mate if you specialise in Bathrooms!

 

[leebut]

One of those new smart cut out ?

I’ve got a gut feeling it’s not as new as you think!!

 

[leebut]

Wrong forum Mate if you specialise in Bathrooms!

Retrained in 2004 now qualified spark as well as my original plumbing background.

Fully qualified with city and Guilds for 16th, 17th and 18th edition of wiring regs as well as city and Guilds qualified for Electric Vehicle charging installations.

I was only installing lighting and a fan on this bathroom bud

 

[Pete999]

Retrained in 2004 now qualified spark as well as my original plumbing background.

Fully qualified with city and Guilds for 16th, 17th and 18th edition of wiring regs as well as city and Guilds qualified for Electric Vehicle charging installations.

I was only installing lighting and a fan on this bathroom bud

Wow

 

[leebut]

Wow

I’m only after a simple answer to valid question, we all come across things we’ve not seen before, if your bothered about my background in electrical work check my Napit page out (3862) how long I’ve been a member with them since 2004, I don’t get what the problem is??

 

[Pete999]

I’m only after a simple answer to valid question, we all come across things we’ve not seen before, if your bothered about my background in electrical work check my Napit page out (3862) how long I’ve been a member with them since 2004, I don’t get what the problem is??

No problem Mate, you said you are a bathroom specialist, or more to the point your profile does, and I thought you are a Plumber, never questioned your electrical quals, just surprised that's all, you're the one getting all wound up.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Came to do the testing on small bathroom lighting job today and I was confronted with this old piece of scrap iron.

that my friend is one thing you should not play with ,considering you where testing a small bathroom light .the question why did you open it .

 

[leebut]

No problem Mate, you said you are a bathroom specialist, or more to the point your profile does, and I thought you are a Plumber, never questioned your electrical quals, just surprised that's all, you're the one getting all wound up.

Hi Pete
I don’t go and check people’s profiles out when I reply to people’s questions, I just answer the question if I can, I filled my profile in numerous years ago, I will this evening change my profile to a more appropriate profile, things have changed in a big way regarding my work, mainly electrical work now, but every so often I do have a dabble in the bathroom work for previous customers


I jumped on the defensive regarding my electrical background because I’ve had people slag me off in the past because people think your below them because I’ve come into a second trade etc

 

[leebut]

that my friend is one thing you should not play with ,considering you where testing a small bathroom light .the question why did you open it .

I opened it because there was no seal on the head unit and no marking on the outside to give me an idea of what the Bs number was

I’ve done nothing illegal, my iCertifi certificate software asks for the Overcurrent Protective Device BS number, type and rating, someone previously has installed a 17th edition split load board in 2012 the house owners have just bought the property and have no paperwork for the installation.


I took a look inside and to be honest I’ve done my customer a favour as the fused neutral head unit needs replacing as previously mentioned in my original post

 

[westward10]

You shouldn't really have opened it the service head protective device should be noted as NV on your Certificate. I have no idea why people need to know this info.

 

[leebut]

You shouldn't really have opened it the service head protective device should be noted as NV on your Certificate. I have no idea why people need to know this info.

Then why is it a question on the certificate then??