In defence of the short course trainee

[High Tower]

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[Breaker]

all credit where it's due.... you are in somerset and ain't drowned.

We were lucky. We just about escaped the floods.

 

[telectrix]

so did rockingit. he's same area.

 

[Guest112]

Here we go again, the DIY sparks piping up again, just think about it, you all had to pay to go on a scam course to teach you the very very very bare minimum about electrical installation, you then pay £400 to join a part p scam provider, and then you think you are competent to intall safely and correctly? Don't be angry at the real sparks just because you fell for the scam just quit and move on to the next false promise you hear of and leave the electrical work to the proffessionals....

 

[GMES]

Breaker fair play for having a sense of humour it goes a long way on here.
Regarding the old fart clicky rumour it may appear like that but all it really boils down to is, if a guy ( i dont desciminate about age ) goes on a 5 week course with no prior knowledge and then immediately goes self employed he can be a accident waiting to happen.But then the real insult comes when they pop in here and expect us to bail them out.
In my opinion if you come on here and say i am 21,33,44 i have been in the trade 10 years i have got a problem i have not come across before but i think this is the way to do it, what are your thoughts, then believe me you will get overwelmed with advice you just have to meet us half way, that is all i ask.

 

[Guest55]

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is that a "selfie" ?

all aboard the 10.45 stopping at geekville , dork central & loser parks.

 

[Guest55]

anyways , back to the topic in hand.

anyone who hasnt spent at least 300 hrs in a classroom before practicing as a spark should be burned at the stake........

 

[High Tower]

In defence of the 5 week wonder

is that a "selfie" ?

all aboard the 10.45 stopping at geekville , dork central & loser parks.

I would have said it was you but I'm not entirely sure if people in Blackpool have started wearing shoes yet ??

 

[Guest55]

I would have said it was you but I'm not entirely sure if people in Blackpool ha started wearing shoes yet ??

i'll gladly take location insults from someone who lives somewhere incredibly kool like miami or singapore.

but seeing as youre from that backwards doss-hole known as birmingham your post has over-loaded my irony filter......

;-D

 

[SPARTYKUS]

i'll gladly take location insults from someone who lives somewhere incredibly kool like miami or singapore.

but seeing as youre from that backwards doss-hole known as birmingham your post has over-loaded my irony filter......

;-D

awww-roite, aww-roite, whats yam sayin loike?

 

[High Tower]

i'll gladly take location insults from someone who lives somewhere incredibly kool like miami or singapore.

but seeing as youre from that backwards doss-hole known as birmingham your post has over-loaded my irony filter......

;-D

I don't live in Birmingham, I've escaped!, I live in the tropical climbs of Tamworth now!, and that's Staffordshire I'll have you know!

The main difference is, I have a river in my front garden, and we have ducks that come and see us.............and no one steals or eats them!!!.........in brum not even the rats are safe!!

 

[High Tower]

awww-roite, aww-roite, whats yam sayin loike?

Take the carrot out your mouth and I might be able to hear you!

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I spent many, many weeks becoming a Electrical Trainee.......... well...... 5!

Well actually 6 months, but its the same thing.. and I stand tall and proud with my Part P badge!! (whilst secretly wishing I new more!)

Have just got off the phone to a training provider (inquiring about the 2365) and he said from the 1st June Napit and NICEIC would not be accepting the 'Domestic Installer' course as entry to themselves. He did say anyone already with them (domestic installer) would be ok.. But you hear so many stories!! I just want to know more!

 

[Breaker]

Breaker fair play for having a sense of humour it goes a long way on here.
Regarding the old fart clicky rumour it may appear like that but all it really boils down to is, if a guy ( i dont desciminate about age ) goes on a 5 week course with no prior knowledge and then immediately goes self employed he can be a accident waiting to happen.But then the real insult comes when they pop in here and expect us to bail them out.
In my opinion if you come on here and say i am 21,33,44 i have been in the trade 10 years i have got a problem i have not come across before but i think this is the way to do it, what are your thoughts, then believe me you will get overwelmed with advice you just have to meet us half way, that is all i ask.

Your right there GMES, but not everyone will agree with you although I think you are spot on. They will shoot me down no mater what my prior knowledge or background is.

Yeah I have seen them myself on the Electrical Trainee course. I was doing mine while working for free for a couple of contractors over a couple of years and a while more after I got my 17th edition and all the rest of it.

Prior to that I started out helping my old man who was a plumber, "BOOOOO" when I was at school.

Was introduced to all the sparkies and wanted to take that direction but couldn't get an apprenticeship so went with the flow and ended up as an instrument maker.

Company closed down so I wanted to do what I really wanted to do from the beginning. I have been trying for years on and off to get into this trade.

I would give my left ------- to have been able to do an apprenticeship but I was never given the chance. A Electrical Trainee course in its self is not enough I agree.

I met people on the course that had come from other building trades and others that as you guys say, shouldn't have been there. However, their are those on here who say I shouldn't have been there neither.

I know I didn't start off on the right track but I am doing all I can to make sure it all goes proper and I aint going to blow no one up.

But maybe if you also meet me half way as well and realise I did do as much as I could as well as the Electrical Trainee course then bingo. I started the Electrical Trainee course in 2011 and after that time I am now going through the Elecsa registration procedure. Been working for free for a contractor and treated like a 16 year old again. Believe me thats really weird.

I haven't the knowledge you guys have but I have worked with apprentice trained sparks that also are lacking a bit. There's good and bad from both methods of training but I agree there's probably more bad from the Electrical Trainee guys.

I may not know everything but who does? Thats why we are on here right? :smile5:

Scam Course, Yeah their were a few off us having a go at them as well. And these people running these courses can get very nasty when you complain. They did when I complained.

I have a work ethic, and I am very conscientious, I developed my own high standards of workmanship years ago.

 

[Selfmade]

Yeah this lot are tired out old farts with a huge chip on their shoulder. An old closed shop mentality. No point new electricians hanging around here on these forums.

Lol very true of some of them, but others have been very helpful and a wealth of knowledge to me, so we must avoid the trap some fall into of generalisation! Also forum can be great fun sometimes.

I can understand why some get frustrated with the level of some of the questions. But not all the ridiculous questions/posts/threads are from 5WWs. I saw a thread by an apprentice not long ago, who wanted to run a 6mm2 T&E like 2 km or something, clipped to a fence across fields, and supplying a 40A load! And he didn't seem to understand the difference between current carrying capacity and volt drop. No offence to the guy, but seriously?