Install cert required if eicr has been done

[Octopus]

Oh dear ....

 

[Des 56]

The eicr being a report on a existing installation will reference the protective devices that exist at the time of inspection,renew the board and its all changed
You are required by the regs to issue certification for all installation work carried out,this can be in the form of a minor works or a installation certificate

Reporting the condition of a installation that has been altered can in no way absolve you from the breaking of the regulations by not issuing certification
Reports and certificates are 2 different animals

 

[Andy78]

What regulation says you must do an installation cert after changing a board?
Good practice guide says you should do it but im only asking why i should Have to do an installation cert after i have done an eicr which is more thorough and i havent installed any circuits.

631.1

 

[thomaspotato]

Electrical safety first Best practce guide 1 replacing a consumer unit in a domestic premises
6.2.1
Check it out

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The reason we issue EICs when changing CUs, is because BS7671 requires us to do so.
Failure to issue said EIC would mean that the work does not comply with BS7671.
The reason people record test results for the existing circuits when they change a CU, is because they like to fill in all the blank boxes.
Of course if changing the CU entails replacing or installing RCD/RCBOs, then tests of the RCD/RCBOs will be required.

 

[ipf]

An eicr first to find out whether your installing a board to supply a load of circuits that are dangerous or can cause nuisance tripping etc

Why? After basic testing and checking before changing a CU, the installation becomes an EIC. If the client doesn't want a full test you just record it and advise one.

 

[thomaspotato]

I do installation certs for new board changes. I’m not looking for some robot to quote regs at me. By replacing the cu with an rcd board i am improving the safety so why?? Do i have to do the same test again to get the same results

 

[Andy78]

Electrical safety first Best practce guide 1 replacing a consumer unit in a domestic premises
6.2.1
Check it out

Also check out 6.2.2 and 9.1 from the same guide. They outline that an EICR is not necessary and that issuing of an EIC is.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I do installation certs for new board changes. I’m not looking for some robot to quote regs at me. By replacing the cu with an rcd board i am improving the safety so why?? Do i have to do the same test again to get the same results

If the original board did not have RCD/RCBOs, how will testing them give the same results?

 

[HomeCert ltd]

If you've already done a full EICR on the property, the only additional tests apart from identifying the new circuit layout would be the RCD tripping times. As you would have already recorded test results from your previous inspection

 

[thomaspotato]

same results only difference is rcd times. All im saying is does no one else think its a bit overkill to do the tests again. Regs are just a guide not an act

 

[thomaspotato]

And by just copying the eicr results proves my point.

 

[HomeCert ltd]

Even if you did copy the EICR results you would still need to issue an EIC and building control notification for the works carried out

 

[thomaspotato]

Even if i didnt do the rcd test and say the rcd was faulty, even with that the installation is still going to be safer with mcbs

 

[Andy78]

same results only difference is rcd times. All im saying is does no one else think its a bit overkill to do the tests again. Regs are just a guide not an act

Repeating the tests is a different matter entirely to your original question, which was do you need to issue an EIC, which you do if your installation is to be compliant with the regulations.
If of course you just view the regs as a guide and are not to be followed then you have wasted your time by even asking this question in the first place. Just carry on as you feel and ignore the regulations.