Ip44 230v zone 1?!

[dokkan1080]

So the light i have states that's its ip44 but can be used in zone 1?

I thought zone 1 was ipx5 and above

 

[Ian1981]

On a side note, the zonal information given by the manufacturers is incorrect, there is no zone around a basin, makes a mockery of the regulation telling you to take manufacturers instructions into account really.

 

[telectrix]

in any zone RCD protection is required. not just zone 1. IP44 is suitable for installation in zones 1 and 2.

 

[dokkan1080]

in any zone RCD protection is required. not just zone 1. IP44 is suitable for installation in zones 1 and 2.

I'm sure I read zone 1 is ipx5 or did I imagine it :/

The ecd bit on the box is a joke ?

 

[westward10]

Minimum requirements for zones 1 and 2 is IPX4. The presence of additional rcd protection does not affect this rating.

 

[Strima]

Zones 1 & 2 the equipment must be IPX4 so IP44 is fine unless you are using water jets where IPX5 is required.

 

[telectrix]

Minimum requirements for zones 1 and 2 is IPX4. The presence of additional rcd protection does not affect this rating.

agreed, though any circuit within or passing through the zones required RCD protection, irrespective of it's IP rating and suitability for installation within zones. manufacturers need to get a grip and supply instructions that are compliant and not confusing.

 

[dokkan1080]

Zones 1 & 2 the equipment must be IPX4 so IP44 is fine unless you are using water jets where IPX5 is required.

Water jets as in above a shower but still in zone 1

 

[westward10]

agreed, though any circuit within or passing through the zones required RCD protection, irrespective of it's IP rating and suitability for installation within zones. manufacturers need to get a grip and supply instructions that are compliant and not confusing.

I agree but existing installations may not have additional rcd protection however you can still replace a like for like/similar light fitting as you are not altering the circuit.

 

[dokkan1080]

in any zone RCD protection is required. not just zone 1. IP44 is suitable for installation in zones 1 and 2.

The zones are from the finished floor level what if you shower try is not on the finished floor level what if its raised up 6inches would you measure the zone from the tray or the bathroom floor

 

[telectrix]

showers spray the water jets donwards. something to do with gravity.they ain't spraying up to the light unless it's a cat having a shower, then all bets are off. them pesky felines pi$$ anywhere.

 

[westward10]

Can we see this fitting and where are you installing it.

 

[Ian1981]

The height of zone 1 and zone 2 are limited either by the horizontal plane corresponding to the highest fixed shower head or water outlet, or the horizontal plane lying 2.25 m above the finished floor level, whichever is higher.
So it is the finished floor level you go off.

 

[telectrix]

The zones are from the finished floor level what if you shower try is not on the finished floor level what if its raised up 6inches would you measure the zone from the tray or the bathroom floor

floor. that's what it sez in the magic picture book, commonly called on site guide.
;

 

[telectrix]

The height of zone 1 and zone 2 are limited either by the horizontal plane corresponding to the highest fixed shower head or water outlet, or the horizontal plane lying 2.25 m above the finished floor level, whichever is higher.

last time i experienced a horizontal plane,I was landing it. makes a right mess if you hit the runway at 45 degrees.