IPXXD Consumer Units

[davesparks]

Davespark. I am indeed talking about twin and earth entering a domestic cu, and I am happy with what you have stated.

But what I'm trying to ascertain, is that if you are compliant to the regs with the minimum of IPXXD there would by the regs be no imperative to go any further. Trunking is a way of keeping it neat, but looking through the forum it would seem people are sloshing silicon sealant and glanding compound etc into the gaps when perhaps their is no need. Talking about the plastic cu's with square knockouts.

I've only fitted a handful of plastic CUs in my career but when I do I cut the enclosure tight to the cables so that there is no need for all that sealant nonsense or whatever.
There's no need to remove the whole marked out bit of plastic if all you have is one T&E going through it

 

[Leesparkykent]

Do you mean 2015 not 2016?

I thought there was an extension until jan 2016 regarding non combustible consumer units. I presume all the manufactures can flog the remaining stock of plastic consumer units

 

[shanky887614]

I thought there was an extension until jan 2016 regarding non combustible consumer units. I presume all the manufactures can flog the remaining stock of plastic consumer units

your right

 

[andyelectric]

In the same way that DNO's now use 'smoulder proof' chipboard to mount their cutouts, is it likely that special smoulder proof plastic consumer units will start to be manufactured.

 

[D Skelton]

Boards don't have to be metal, just made of non combustible material, something which all plastic ones have been since 61439-3 changed its requirements last year (I believe).

All this hype about metal boards is doin my swede in!

 

[netblindpaul]

Boards don't have to be metal, just made of non combustible material, something which all plastic ones have been since 61439-3 changed its requirements last year (I believe).

All this hype about metal boards is doin my swede in!

Unfortunately Damien, BEAMA & all their member companies, have decided that the only way to comply with the intent of the reg is to use steel.
So all BEAMA member companies will only be using steel.
The Note 2 in the DPC which mentions 960 deg glow wire tested plastic has been removed.
61439-3 is being ignored.

 

[D Skelton]

Unfortunately Damien, BEAMA & all their member companies, have decided that the only way to comply with the intent of the reg is to use steel.
So all BEAMA member companies will only be using steel.
The Note 2 in the DPC which mentions 960 deg glow wire tested plastic has been removed.
61439-3 is being ignored.

Ah crap. Mind you, that'll change next week an' all won't it lol

 

[shanky887614]

there is no point speculating, till jan it could all change

 

[Octopus]

All this crap when the real answer is to install mains powered interlinked smokes in the same room/location of the fuseboard.

madness, unnecessary expense and complexity when smokes will do

 

[Flanders]

Time to rip out those plasticq CUs and start fitting the fire proof wooden backed wylex boards

 

[netblindpaul]

Ah crap. Mind you, that'll change next week an' all won't it lol

Not quite, unfortunately, as the "book" has now been signed off, so it can't change next week.
The page I saw in "the book" that went for sign off, had the 960 deg reference removed.
As I say, that was the copy that went for sign off, or so I am led to believe, and that was by a person who knows, and well, if, he did not know then Lord help us, because no one knows, and if he is wrong, then there will be no Yellow Book come Jan 1st.
Damien, believe me on this, the guy that I got this gem from, really DOES know.

BEAMA, have made their stance clear.
I have spoken to BEAMA members, and their stance is clear, they will be going steel.

 

[D Skelton]

I don't disbelieve the information you have passed on, but I'll just wait until Jan. First it was definitely metal, then it wasn't, then it was, then it wasn't, now it is.

Bunch of clowns need to pull their fingers out!

 

[Rockingit]

There is one upside if the decision IS back to steel.......DIY is capable of punching a hole in an ABS enclosure with the wifes knitting needles, but metal you at the least need some proper tools to make a hole in.

 

[shanky887614]

if they have removed reference to the 960 dec wire test i doubt it will be for meter ccu.

at the end of the day they need some plastic or ceramic/similar to isolate the parts so they cant be completely fireproof anyway so i doubt it will be only metal

 

[R G]

From what I have heard you can use a plastic CU , and install it in a metal enclosure as well , also the term competent person is being removed as well to qualified...

Hopefully in time this will move nearer to JIB grading..