Is LSF spec or regs?

[IAmSparkytus!]

Hi all,

Can someone point out to me in the regs where it states that LSF is a must?

Been working with a sparky who asked why I was using LSF instead of standard PVC.

He said that the use of LSF is a spec thing and not a regulation - would he be correct?

Thanks all!

 

[Spoon]

He said that the use of LSF is a spec thing and not a regulation - would he be correct?

Yes, in this country.

 

[Midwest]

Isn't there a reg for LSF for particular install?

 

[magnoliafan89]

Commercial jobs i used to work on specified lsf and i was under the assumption that certain installs it was regs

 

[IAmSparkytus!]

Think I've checked the regs before and not came up with much. I've never been questioned by an NICEIC inspector in the past regarding it either.

Bit of a grey area perhaps?

 

[Spoon]

Isn't there a reg for LSF for particular install?

I've done a search for LSF in BS7671, OSG & EN60204 and it came up with no results.

 

[The Ghost]

On site it is insisted the LSF is used. I think it may be in building regs. It is somewhere written LSF to be used maybe in the Hobbit books just can't quite recall where it is recommended.

 

[Spoon]

I tell a lie.

 

[magnoliafan89]

For commercial jobs especially when the client isnt fussed on price isnt it just a better job to install lsf??

 

[dinger809]

Generally LSF is a specification from the consultant in an install. Obviously as above (reg 711) for exhibitions etc, LSF makes sense, but I think there is not other requirement for it
My only requirement for the manufacturers, is to make one that actually strips half as easily as pvc................ horrible stuff, especially this time of year

 

[magnoliafan89]

Very true but it is nice when you spend a long time stripping lsf and then one day you get some 1mm pvc

 

[dinger809]

Very true but it is nice when you spend a long time stripping lsf and then one day you get some 1mm pvc

Aaah, that is like all Christmases at once!

 

[Joshua]

Very true but it is nice when you spend a long time stripping lsf and then one day you get some 1mm pvc

Unless you're like me and try stripping the pvc with the same strength and determination as you would lsf and end up smacking yourself in the mouth with your cutters.

 

[Midwest]

Very true but it is nice when you spend a long time stripping lsf and then one day you get some 1mm pvc

I was on one particular job with LSF, contractor bought a couple of bespoke stripping tools. Made life so much easier. Was a fight to get hold of them though.

 

[IAmSparkytus!]

But going back to that regulation that Spoon managed to find, are we saying that you literally only need to install lsf by law if there are no fire alarms in place?

Fit a fire alarm and you're covered basically (unless you're told the client wants lsf that is).

And what was the bespoke stripping tool? I'm intrigued. Lsf isn't too hard to strip that someone had to invent a took specifically for it surely