Is Nest compatible with my wiring?

[telectrix]

so what happens when a fuse on the PCB goes down? customer has to pay a sparks call-out then 4 hours waiting time for a gas reg. guy to turn up, then pay his call-out on top? cheaper to buy a new boiler.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I dont bother installing smart thermostats for people anymore unless its a longstanding customer and i know the heating install is decent or a new install done tidily.
went to one a couple months back after a diyer attempt and he had completely messed up his wiring in the junction box, had copied a youtube video apparently but didnt label anything... then tried to put it all back together before i got there. I took one look at it and tripled the quote and added it to the original nest install price. he wasnt happy but i gave him the choice of paying or having no hot water and heating! his wife was less than impressed

 

[telectrix]

I dont bother installing smart thermostats for people anymore unless its a longstanding customer and i know the heating install is decent or a new install done tidily.
went to one a couple months back after a diyer attempt and he had completely messed up his wiring in the junction box, had copied a youtube video apparently but didnt label anything... then tried to put it all back together before i got there. I took one look at it and tripled the quote and added it to the original nest install price. he wasnt happy but i gave him the choice of paying or having no hot water and heating! his wife was less than impressed

that's the old adage my dad used to say....

£40 to fix the fault. £70 if you watch over me. £100 if you've had a go yourself.

 

[Corbs]

so what happens when a fuse on the PCB goes down? customer has to pay a sparks call-out then 4 hours waiting time for a gas reg. guy to turn up, then pay his call-out on top? cheaper to buy a new boiler.

just call a gsr engy out and not a sparky as its not there job tbh

 

[Octopus]

I think the boiler manufacturers and the smart thermostat manufactures need to create decent reliable fool proof information ....

Here's hoping!

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I think the boiler manufacturers and the smart thermostat manufactures need to create decent reliable fool proof information ....

Here's hoping!

I would be interested to know what the consequences would be for all concerned if a diyer did it themselves and then either caused the boiler to malfunction and cause harm somehow.... nest have all the clauses in the paperwork saying not our fault use a professional. would they throw the gas regs at them and say shouldn't have removed or opened the boiler cover to install it as they are not gas safe? could have implications on insurance etc...

 

[Octopus]

^^

I quite agree, but it doesn't stop numpties by the dozen buying this stuff and expecting people like us to give them step by step instructions

 

[123]

I think the boiler manufacturers and the smart thermostat manufactures need to create decent reliable fool proof information ....

Here's hoping!

Don't they do that already?
Each give the installation manuals, and say get someone competent/that is qualified to install them to local standards etc etc to install them.

 

[davesparks]

thats how there built and that why they come pre wired, for the sparks so they dont have to remove the case

also were allowed to connect into fcu no need for sparks unless there isnt one then its a sparks job

I’ve never yet seen a boiler fully pre-wired. Sure Worcester’s turn up with an incoming supply cable but there’s no pre-wired external controls cabling.

 

[davesparks]

I think the boiler manufacturers and the smart thermostat manufactures need to create decent reliable fool proof information ....

Here's hoping!

The installation manuals are pretty foolproof already, what more information do you feel you require from them?

 

[Octopus]

The installation manuals are pretty foolproof already, what more information do you feel you require from them?

I didn't say I required ... From the number of posts on here it's obvious that the manufacturers information isn't sufficient or clear enough ..

 

[Gaz47]

Yes the nest can easily be installed with that boiler.

Thanks for the advice and to everyone else!

 

[davesparks]

I didn't say I required ... From the number of posts on here it's obvious that the manufacturers information isn't sufficient or clear enough ..

as with the vast majority of DIY questions on this forum the supplied instructions are very clear, it’s the idiots who don’t read them properly, guess or follow online videos of unknown quality etc that are the problem.

 

[Corbs]

I’ve never yet seen a boiler fully pre-wired. Sure Worcester’s turn up with an incoming supply cable but there’s no pre-wired external controls cabling.

use there controls or ask the gsr engy to wire it up to externally

 

[Gazthesparky]

I installed a nest thermostat to a new worcester combi the other day. I was impressed as the electrical front panel unscrewed from the bottom with 3 screws. the front case wasn't touched and you couldn't see any of the internal plumbing

just the wiring for the boiler