Stroma Certification Scheme Is STROMA now owned by NAPIT, and Certsure own ELECSA, NICEIC and...

[Mark1714]

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum having just done 2392, Part P, 18th Edition and BPEC solarPV at TS4U and the topic is pertinent to my position. I wasn't aware these organisations are classed as charities for a start. If the information I read on here is correct im asking myself dies monopolies commission rules cover charities. If not, all if these associated "charities" can charge membership fees of whatever they want.
I'm now in a position to becoming a member but can't decide which one, or know the best way to do it with the route I took to get qualified. Any observations from thre floor would be welcomed.

 

[Paul_Williams]

Wouldn't you (i.e. Electricians and the Electrical Installation Industry) in general prefer a "ElecSafe" or "SparkSafe" body that ALL electricians capable of signing off work have to be registered and assessed by?

Gas engineers used to have to be "Corgi" registered, nowadays they have to be "GasSafe" registered.

Customers know Gas engineers have to be "GasSafe" but the same can't really be said for customers in regards to electricians, many think their builder can do it, or their chippie can run some cables for them, etc. with the plethora of Part P schemes; ELECSA, NAPIT, NICEIC, STROMA at least, and with the Electrical Safety Register not really having the same presence as GasSafe, it's no wonder domestic customers get confused and or don't really know who can/can't do electrical work for them.

ECA don't technically operate a Part P scheme, although I stand to be corrected, instead they work with Certsure, i.e. ELECSA (which used to be "Part of the ECA Group" but isn't anymore the ELECSA logo changed two or three years ago) and the NICEIC to promote electrical safety standards in both the home and the wider electrical industry.

 

[Dan]

Corgi had such a bad name. Plumbers report that it was the reason it had to be changed.

Though now it appears that whoever 'won the bid' for it got cocky and didn't win it again at renewal. They kept he licensing of the name out of spite, it has been said.

Then the name came up for grabs, and a guy who sells plumbing bits owns it.

Now plumbase license it or something. Not sure what's going on there.

It's all too confusing for me, who isn't a sparky. And seeing the logo on a white van with nothing else on it doesn't help any brand. Not sure why those are still being posted out. Online marketing is needed.

Why aren't any of these logos on RateABuilder websites? Informing the 'homeowner' what it means.... I ask myself every time I see a white van with one on.

GSR don't even have numbers on their logos on vans. That's becoming just as unreputable as the old Corgi register was becoming. IMO.

 

[Sparkingmad]

The other problem you have is that NICEIC with their electrical safety Standards marketing strategy done a sterling job of being the number 1 name everyone remembers. The amount of builders, homeowners and letting agents I have had to educate over the years. You don’t have to be NICEIC to be part p competent you can be Stroma or NAPIT too, both were equally as good in fact I would say my 1st Stroma assessment was far harder more in-depth that any of the numerous NICEIC assessments I had.