is this allowable

[Chrislittle]

To late walls all chased out for it all. I believe he has the parts also

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Thanks Paul. Bit late been up since 5am

 

[Silly Sausage]

I assume he's got 2 or 3 undercounter appliances so why not just run each one on its own radial and it's own MCB in the CU. He'll be able to isolate them individually that way without having a wall full of FCU's.

No No No!
A kitchen will run perfectly fine on a single RFC no problem.
What is it with this running a radial to each appliance?!?!

 

[Chrislittle]

I'll go with its acceptable. Will chat to him in a few hours

 

[Geordie Spark]

You could be right, at first I assumed it might be some bizarre UK standard installation I hadn't heard of.

Maybe it's the way it's done in Sunderland or Hartlepool.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Im confused too, I think ! Or am I ?

Do you/your friend mean as in a kitchen where many kitchen fitters put a fcu in the ring, above the kitchen worktop which then feeds a socket outlet for a freezer, washing machine etc ? In effect a spur from the rfc for each appliance ?

How is that there's always a "friend" or a "My sparky is away in holiday" involved somewhere??

Anyway, my answer to the question (for what it's worth as I'm only a plumber and gasfitter who "knows a bit about electric") is it's a ludicrous and expensive idea.

My suggestion to getting it done is find a proper spark and get him / her to do it and pay them the going rate.

 

[Chrislittle]

Thanks for your suggestion, like any of you if a friend as for advice you help where possible. What I've asked all I have encountered on here other than a few good responses in the end its is negativity and silly responses, don't really boast well if people not in the trade look up stuff and get directed here. At the end of the day like my position we all start out with little experience older we are more we get. Unfortunately this is not somethin. I have come across so sought advice here. Which I won't be doing again.

 

[Andy78]

Thanks for your suggestion, like any of you if a friend as for advice you help where possible. What I've asked all I have encountered on here other than a few good responses in the end its is negativity and silly responses,don't really boast well if people not in the trade look up stuff and get directed here. At the end of the day like my position we all start out with little experience older we are more we get. Unfortunately this is not somethin. I have come across so sought advice here. Which I won't be doing again.

Ask a silly question............

 

[Chrislittle]

Really don't go down that path nothing is a silly question at the end of the day. If in doubt ask.

 

[midgetman]

You mean a kitchen ring with an isolation point (fcu) to a double socket feeding an appliance? Thousands of kitchens are Wired like such. Is that what you mean?

 

[Octopus]

Really don't go down that path nothing is a silly question at the end of the day. If in doubt ask.

The reason you got some "daft" responses was down to the very badly worded and described OP!!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Thanks for your suggestion, like any of you if a friend as for advice you help where possible. What I've asked all I have encountered on here other than a few good responses in the end its is negativity and silly responses, don't really boast well if people not in the trade look up stuff and get directed here. At the end of the day like my position we all start out with little experience older we are more we get. Unfortunately this is not somethin. I have come across so sought advice here. Which I won't be doing again.

It does get tiresome to read day-after-day BADLY worded questions that make no sense because the OP couldn't be bothered to read what he / she has typed and ask themselves "if I was a stranger reading this would I understand it?" before pressing the "post button".

Take a bit more time to THINK about EXACTLY what it is you're trying to ask and the responses will be a bit more positive.

It really IS that simple !!

 

[LeeH]

No No No!
A kitchen will run perfectly fine on a single RFC no problem.
What is it with this running a radial to each appliance?!?!

In just finishing the 2400, or what ever it's called now. And the only exception to this was maybe a radial to the dishwasher because you may get more then 20A between the socket legs. Which apparently is not allowed.

I'm sure one of you domestic guys will confirm or beat me down.

 

[DPG]

In just finishing the 2400, or what ever it's called now. And the only exception to this was maybe a radial to the dishwasher because you may get more then 20A between the socket legs. Which apparently is not allowed.

I'm sure one of you domestic guys will confirm or beat me down.

I may have misunderstood here, but 20 Amps? Where is this figure from? Daz

 

[Hawkmoon]

In just finishing the 2400, or what ever it's called now./ And the only exception to this was maybe a radial to the dishwasher because you may get more then 20A between the socket legs. Which apparently is not allowed.

I'm sure one of you domestic guys will confirm or beat me down.

Lee - is there a bit of your text missing here / ? - can't seem to get what you're saying

Are you talking about an unbalanced RFC causing excessive current in one leg - and the need to feed the DW separately to remedy the problem?

 

[LeeH]

Hi mate,

Archy pointed out a kitchen will run fine on 1 RFC. I tend to agree, my house has not burnt down as of yet.

I did a mock exam and the model answer suggested that it was prudent to put a Dishwasher on its own 16A radial.

This was too reduce the likely hood of having 20A between 2 sockets, 1 length of 2.5.

I've just looked in Appendix 15 and cannot find anything to support it but I will ask my tutor and see if there is anything in black and white RE this 20A.