Is this the real bible eicr code breaker

[Octopus]

There’s quite a lot of input from various persons so I don’t think it’s been given a overall final say by a senior person/editor on the coding in general

But they are selling it ......................

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Shouldnt rcds be required when cables are in a wall less than 50mm deep without any protection?

Only when run in prescribed routes (safe zones).
RCD protection is not an option for cables elsewhere.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

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This is rubbish.
There is no prohibition in BS7671 against running cables outside of prescribed zones or diagonally. They need to be protected by one of the listed methods.

 

[Ian1981]

This is rubbish.
There is no prohibition in BS7671 against running cables outside of prescribed zones or diagonally. They need to be protected by one of the listed methods.

I just hope people don’t start quoting this book as gospel and use it as the be all and end all of eicr coding

 

[Octopus]

Wonder if we should share this thread with NAPIT?

 

[Ian1981]

Wonder if we should share this thread with NAPIT?

I’ve shown the pics to napit on Twitter
Awaiting their response if any!

 

[Ian1981]

Duplicate post

 

[paullyons]

 

[Wilko]

I'm guessing they didn't send this out for peer review. Or (unkindly) they were drinking the Coporate Kool Aid ...

 

[Wilko]

I am conflicted about suppliers equipment from the posted pages. It implies there is a requirement to code the condition of supplier's seals, which I don't think is true (?). Nearest I can see is a statement in BBB p476 "where inadequacies in the intake equipment are encountered the inspector should advise the person authorising the work..." . Myself, I don't see the lack of an intact suppliers seal (on its own) as a electrical safety concern.

It tickles me that all our certs and reports want us to state the suppliers fuse size, but now we are to code ourselves if we have a look .

 

[Deleted member 26818]

It is a Statutory requirement for the Suppliers fuse to be locked away.

 

[BruvDunk]

Sort of stuff that I've done a 3 week course I'm an electrician folk will be using me thinks.....

 

[Toneyz]

Is this rev2 based upon the 18th?

 

[MFS Electrical]

Can the op scan it and put it on the forum i could save £20.00 .if he want to be our freind

Or PM it to us interested parties

 

[Wilko]

It is a Statutory requirement for the Suppliers fuse to be locked away.

I'm blissfully ignorant - do you have the ref please? Also, not sure how can that little piece of wire be considered to be locking the fuse away (?). And I still don't see how it can be a safety issue for the installation I'm reporting on (?). But happy to learn .

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'm blissfully ignorant - do you have the ref please? Also, not sure how can that little piece of wire be considered to be locking the fuse away (?). And I still don't see how it can be a safety issue for the installation I'm reporting on (?). But happy to learn .

The Electricity Safety, Quality and Continuity
Regulations 2009

Equipment on a consumer’s premises
24.
(2) Every circuit breaker or cut-out fuse forming part of the fusible cut-out mentioned in
paragraph (1)(c) shall be enclosed in a locked or sealed container as appropriate.

 

[Ian1981]

Is this rev2 based upon the 18th?

Yes

 

[Wilko]

Thanks Archy .

 

[Toneyz]

Yes

Thanks, Ian I thought it was.

 

[AndyL]

The main problem is people believing there can be a definitive answer for everything. Each situation has its own code for a reason, it ultimately comes down to the opinion of the guy/girl on site. This is why, I believe, EICRs should only be completed by experienced electricians

 

[Toneyz]

The main problem is people believing there can be a definitive answer for everything. Each situation has its own code for a reason, it ultimately comes down to the opinion of the guy/girl on site. This is why, I believe, EICRs should only be completed by experienced electricians

I do not have this guide but I am sure that gives a reason and conclusion they have which can be used as a reference point.

 

[oracle]

Mmmm, not the Bible, check Koran, Book of Mormon, Bagvad Gita, etc for comparison.

 

[oracle]

Or just form your own conspiracy

 

[Toneyz]

Mmmm, not the Bible, check Koran, Book of Mormon, Bagvad Gita, etc for comparison.

When I had to renew my CSCS card and had to do the H&S test it was at the NICEIC Nr Dunstable I was looking for the stained glass windows and I'm sure that reception desk could double up as the alter.

 

[suffolkspark]

only just got my copy today, seems a neat book, but the errors in the coding list is terrible!!! seems quite a few, 2 of which I specifically called technical about the other day, and was given differing answer on code compared to the book!