Is this the worst install you have ever seen? *Feedback wanted!*

[rmc86uk]

Hi everyone,

I would very much appreciate your feedback/comments regarding this electricial install to help my cousin who has been ripped off and potentially could have put her life at risk!

She has recently had new decking fitted in the back garden and a family friend of hers who I kind of know put in the electrics for the outside lighting. This kid has being doing electrics since leaving school (approx 10years) and I know the firm he served his time with and I have come accross his work before!

He has installed outside lights to the decking in 1.5mm and took the feed straight from a kitchen socket under the sink and cut the earth out. He's then run it to an outside two gang switch (to which only one gang was needed) he then took the feed out of the switch in 2.5mm and fed every metal* light fitting reducing the cable size to 1.5mm then back to 2.5mm. He has cut off every earth at every connection point terminated in connectors and left them out in the open...yes in the open! He has made so many connections in connector blocks and failed to connect the earths from the fittings.

I had to go round earlier to see for myself as I did not believe that he had done such disgusting work when my cousin told me. I have asked for her permission to put these photos up and would like some feedback off other electricians.

I have uploaded some photos to show you how bad this install is.

Thanks












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[tigerpaul]

That might be ok where you're from mate but in the UK it isn't

Exactly!

 

[HandySparks]

You shouldn't be recommending this as a way of making the installation safe nerj, as it also contravenes the electrical regs, as well as being dangerous.

I've reported the post. If enough members do the same, maybe we can influence the mods to chuck this sort of poster off. There've been several like this recently.

 

[trev]

I've reported the post. If enough members do the same, maybe we can influence the mods to chuck this sort of poster off. There've been several like this recently.

I'm cutting him a bit of slack because he's from the Phillipines and they rpobably do things a lot differently there. A UK poster coming out with this would be reported instantly

 

[Guitarist]

I'm cutting him a bit of slack because he's from the Phillipines and they rpobably do things a lot differently there. A UK poster coming out with this would be reported instantly

You are generous trev. Have you read some of his other posts?

 

[trev]

You are generous trev. Have you read some of his other posts?

CRIKEY! He should have stopped after his first.

 

[Marvo]

I'm cutting him a bit of slack because he's from the Phillipines and they rpobably do things a lot differently there.

Me too. Tape joints might be acceptable in the Philippines whereas not in the UK. Possibly he was referring to self-amalgamating tape which is quite commonly seen where I am as well.

 

[Strima]

CRIKEY! He should have stopped after his first.

Just read them and they have raised a smile on my normally rough and cragged exterior...

 

[Guitarist]

Me too. Tape joints might be acceptable in the Philippines whereas not in the UK. Possibly he was referring to self-amalgamating tape which is quite commonly seen where I am as well.

It's nice to cut people some slack, but he IS posting on a UK site with advice for our readers. Maybe if the cowboy who did the "work" originally reads this, he may go and pop some tape around to make the connection safer

 

[robsparky1975]

Forget part P just ring your local building dept, tell them the work you want to do, they will want copies of your qualifications and the electrical installation certificate an schedule of tests certificate which they keep.

Exactly,what a lot do not know is that this is an acceptable thing to do,the only trouble is it will cost perhaps £60-80 as an unregistered(nic,elecsa etc)sparks every notifyable job,if most of someones work is domestic then it makes sense to pay the redicoulous amount of £444 .I think the op should do the work and notify as stated in this post.

 

[Guitarist]

Exactly,what a lot do not know is that this is an acceptable thing to do,the only trouble is it will cost perhaps £60-80 as an unregistered(nic,elecsa etc)sparks every notifyable job,if most of someones work is domestic then it makes sense to pay the redicoulous amount of £444 .I think the op should do the work and notify as stated in this post.

I think it depends on the particular LBC. Mine simply would not recognise anyone (regardless of qualifications) unless they are part P registered. It was completely black & white when I tried to discuss this very matter with them.

 

[Brit90]

I just had a look at these photo's and that is exactly the same problem I have here in Thailand where I now work.
The work is ALL like that, apart from NO connector blocks, but twisted cables. They do use tape on the joints though which is a bonus, when I have to redo all the work...

Terrible install and I hope this guy is removed from the profession as soon as possible!

Tb90

 

[jay2k11]

I thought i'd seen some things but that is beond belief .....

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I thought i'd seen some things but that is beond belief .....

 

[sparks1973]

i bet you all he`s been installin today someware abouts......someones in for a shock...thats for sure.....lol...

 

[reefagrim]

oh yes it can be typical this was found from a inspection that i carried out on a new installation .the installer was not from the uk ( turkey i believe ) and this was a spurred joint on a ring in a shop.Twisted wire and tape!!
what made it worse was the fact that the work had been signed off on official certifcation of my former employers no names but very big organisation north of luton when i questioned this certificate not only was it signed by a approved contractor but it was on a periodic sheet for a new install. hence the out come was to call in the organisation who forced the electrician who signed it off to visit me . now the best bit
he admitted that he carried out a test prior to the new installation but not the work done since and it was found that the builder had installed it himself then tried to change the date on the certificate he is currently not in the country as he is being taken to court by the client nice eh!! as for the final report that i issued on this installation lets say i said i would take about 3 hours to carry out the test 12 hours later i found 172 code 1 issues 34 code 2 and 2 A4 sides of code 4 ( i prefer the old codes)

 

[mr murdock]

a case for watchdog if ever there was one