is WW3 a possibility

Maddison · Aug 30, 2014

just having a scan through the internet and came across this ukraine russia situation, all these sactions being imposed etc doesnt really bother us but i was reading that Ukraine have applied to become part of NATO, if im not mistaken and the application is successful then as Ukraine has been "invaded" constitutes an act of war and therefore NATO members i.e USA .UK etc have an obligation to fight ? am i right

trev · Aug 30, 2014

Yes, it certainly used to be so unless they've changed the charter we could be in for big trouble. The situation in the middle east with IS doesn't help either.

Octopus · Aug 30, 2014

I'm not sure that Russia would be stupid enough to provoke the West, whilst the plethora of armed "idiots" in the Middle East don't think at all so its them that I'm very concerned about.....

pcam1984 · Aug 30, 2014

If Russia decide to step things up a bit then wveryones in trouble. Putins a madman an more than capable of trying to start on everyone

Guest77 · Aug 30, 2014

The yanks are tougher than putin, if things get out of hand he will have to back down or he will face humiliation, his weapons are second world war at best, and he won't use a nuke on his own doorstep.

trev · Aug 30, 2014

Putin isn't mad enough to start throwing nukes around but he is mad enough to keep on pushing which may end up in a conventional war.
If the IS scum get their hands on them we will have a massive problem because they don't care enough not to use them. That's why they have to be stopped. If they have $2 Bn as they claim that could be enough to persuade Kim Jong Il to part with one of his. OK it would be a small yield explosion but a nuke is a nuke. The west would have no other option then but to turn the whole region into glass.

dazza1981 · Aug 30, 2014

As long as they don't nuke us before i get paid for this extension i have just wired !!

percysybil · Aug 30, 2014

IS pose the biggest threat, hence the security level being upped within the last couple of days...

They are truly off-the-scale and I don't think we'll see a response of any significance until we get some home-soil pain (think of poor Lee Rigby)

Russia will (eventually) agree to diplomatic deal..

Just my view...

trev · Aug 30, 2014

I agree that IS are the biggest threat but the raising of the threat level was nothing more than a diversion so that Cameron might not have to answer difficult questions about Rotherham or Douglas Carswell.
Get everyone whipped up about the big bad bogey man and other things melt into the background. Even Theresa May has said there is no intelligence to suggest an attack is imminent, why raise the threat level to "attack very likely" then?

Guest77 · Aug 30, 2014

trev said:
Putin isn't mad enough to start throwing nukes around but he is mad enough to keep on pushing which may end up in a conventional war.
If the IS scum get their hands on them we will have a massive problem because they don't care enough not to use them. That's why they have to be stopped. If they have $2 Bn as they claim that could be enough to persuade Kim Jong Il to part with one of his. OK it would be a small yield explosion but a nuke is a nuke. The west would have no other option then but to turn the whole region into glass.

He won't be daft enough to take on the west in a conventional war, he may try it on but he will back down if 500,000 allied troops start defending western europe with all our technology.

Pete999 · Aug 30, 2014

The Sovs may be barmy but they ain't that stupid surely?

amlu · Aug 30, 2014

politicians are mad! all of them no matter which side.

Barry White · Aug 30, 2014

sov aint stupid (well we better hope not our troops have enough on their plate) and again its about oil/gas theres an extra benefit of unrest causes price increases fuel will go up again.

trev · Aug 30, 2014

The first Tom Clancy book I ever read, Red Storm Rising, gave a scenario which is scarily similar to what is going on now. Unrest in the middle east, a Russian leader needing to flex his muscle to impress his people etc.
The world needs to unite to get the IS situation resolved once and for all and then need to put their heads together to make sure the world becomes a better place. The US and UK must not act on their own, China, Russia and the Saudis (if possible) need to do it.