JIB Electrotechnical Certification Scheme (ECS) jib card advice

[kopsaint]

hi all,

started my 2330 level2 in sept and am enjoying it,could someone clarify what i think is correct to gaining your jib card.
1.do your ecs safety test,get card as mate/improver.
2.study 2330 level2&3.
3.study 2382 17th edition.
4. study 2391 test and inspection.

whilst you are doing all this you need to do your nvq level 3,by way of obtaining a portfolio of your work,and then finally you do your am2 test. is this the correct procedure to get your jib card as an approved spark?

comments please.

 

[Dankelly]

He did the AM2 but that was separate. It was all funded as he is under 25. He did the NVQ in 3/4 months then did the AM2 a couple of weeks after his NVQ had been signed off. He has had his AM2 certificate but is still waiting for his NVQ cert, and that was about 7 weeks ago!

 

[wilber]

Heres the deal.
C&G papers up to level 3, ECS and NVQ3. Apply for card and you should be graded as an electrician. AM1 & 2 are for young lads doing a JIB apprenticeship only. It does not apply to adult trainees. To be an approved electrician you will need a C&G 2391 testing and inspection ticket. It used to be the case that you needed to have spent a certain amount of time in the industry before you could be considered approved. (I know guys who did a 7 year apprenticeship in the late 60's early 70's who could not be considered as approved untill they were 23) however, i'm not too sure of that now.
Wilber.

 

[1billy wiz]

wilbur is correct am1&2 are for apprentices that have done a scheme like jtl.if you book for an am2 they will take your money!!
you want to do level 3 nvq,its not level 3 2330 either.best way is to do it online with QUICK•STEP® LAMINATE FLOORING
as 4 jib unless your boss is holding back your pay,you'll haft to leave b4 they up it 9 times out of 10.
im never paying another fee to jib again,after finding out theyb are looking to set up centres in poland to get them reg'd & carded up.ive had job offers 4 jib sparks under the jib rate,which takes the pee!!!!!!

 

[dkent5]

www.jib.org will give you all the grading definitions you require and the application forms to download. If you are trying to get approved status, you must have the 2391. If you have the passport to safety(CCNSG) that should also mean you do not have the ECS and you will be granted that and the CSCS automatically. As far as I'm concerned and I work totally in Industrial(Oil & Gas, Steelworks, Power generation, Water treatment and Pharmaceutical), you will not be considered without a current JIB card on most jobs. Hope this helps, regards, Dan.

 

[KNIPEX]

well after 6 weeks im still waiting for my card pretty poor bad service i think.

 

[stspark]

iv done c+g 2330 levels 2&3, AM2, ECS, IPAF- + 5years experience can only get a labourer card!!

 

[dkent5]

ST spark,
I find that incredibly strange, did your company apply or did you and did you/ they apply for the grade or let JIB decide?

 

[stspark]

I applied for it myself hopeing to get electrician grade or at least improver, as a sole trader i thought it might help getting work with bigger firms. Jib said that because i have no nvq i cant get the spark card and i cant get improver or trainee as im not currently doing an nvq. So from what they saying u have to do the nvq, but i no sparks with electrician card that dont have the nvq..! bit of a joke int it!

Out of interest any1 no how much is the nvq 3 course??

 

[dannybruff]

Thanks for the reply Pgee.

I've been trawling the net to try and find various training companies that offer NVQ3.Prices start from £600 upwards.Obviously college prices are a bit cheaper but I can't seem to find one in my local area that does it and I doubt wether a college tutor in Cornwall is going to be too keen on travelling upto Durham on occasions! It looks like I may have to postpone this course as at the moment I just haven't got that kind of money.

I wish I was an apprentice like but unfortunately I missed that particular boat,so everything I've done has been self-funded.I'd just like to gain the JIB card because as I'm not working at the moment,nearly all the agencies I'm in touch with are asking for JIB graded electricians.

Apparently I do not need to do the AM2 for my grading.(the JIB's own words).

I shall persevere.

I am in exactly the same boat, I got these quals from the army

City and Guilds 2390 parts 1 & 2
City and Guilds 2360 C Course
City and Guilds 2381 16th Edition, wiring regs
City and Guilds 2391 Inspection and Testing

And I applied for JIB card, as nearly every one wants CSCS now. I got it back last week and it says Senior graded electical trainee. No use to me is it!!! It has my CSCS proof on it so every job on site i go to now i'm a 29 year old apprentice? What is the point in doin havin those qualifications then???? NVQ3 is a swear word in my dictionary. I cant afford the costs to do it and i kinda think I shouldnt have to with what i've got!!!

 

[1billy wiz]

just get a bog standard cscs if, they ask if your jib just say yes,ive never been asked for my serial no.
you can say you have not renewed your card if need be & provide your cert's.

 

[shakerbess]

hi mate were in uk are you? im training to be an assessor for nvq i may be able to help you get nvq if you still want it?

 

[371h]

Alright mate. Have the same problems as most of what is posted. Have the 2330 pt 2 + 3, the 17th and am doing the 2391. Need the nvq aswell. Just wondering would you be able to help me. I am based in east london. Cheers.

 

[dannybruff]

hi mate were in uk are you? im training to be an assessor for nvq i may be able to help you get nvq if you still want it?

I'm currently living in York. I'm totally stumped as to where to go go next. I thought i was qualified. 2360 1&2, C course, 2381, 2391. but from what i see, all the learn direct courses etc, that say become qualified offer less than this but jib still regard me as a trainee? how am i suppose to leave this country as a trainee. I'm going to a careers adviser next week at selby college. all i assume is that to gain nvq3 i'd have to get a job with a jib registered company as an apprentice. I'm 29 years old, no company is going to take me on as an apprentic. its all about the school leavers these days. I would love to hear from an nvq assessor to hear what my options are.

 

[ecclescake]

I'm currently living in York. I'm totally stumped as to where to go go next. I thought i was qualified. 2360 1&2, C course, 2381, 2391. but from what i see, all the learn direct courses etc, that say become qualified offer less than this but jib still regard me as a trainee? how am i suppose to leave this country as a trainee. I'm going to a careers adviser next week at selby college. all i assume is that to gain nvq3 i'd have to get a job with a jib registered company as an apprentice. I'm 29 years old, no company is going to take me on as an apprentic. its all about the school leavers these days. I would love to hear from an nvq assessor to hear what my options are.

Have you been on site yet or have you just done all the courses at college?

 

[dannybruff]

Have you been on site yet or have you just done all the courses at college?

Yes, I've been on many sites since finishing in 2005, I'm only tryin to pursue this now as the JIB have graded me as a 'senior graded electrical trainee' having done 2369 parts 1 and 2, 2369 Electrical Installation Work Course C, 2381 16th Edition (upgarde pending) and 2391 I&T. Problem I think I'm going to have is building a portfolio, There are hardly any Jobs at the moment, and unfortunately, I never went round taking photos of work I've been doing since, plus, as a 'trainee', how the hell am I supposed to get on site? The JIB card has my CSCS proof on it. I'm screwed!! I need help BIG sticks.