I have had so much fun with JIB, the came up with a new grade for me after it went to the board?,they agreed with the qualification from three countries (british time served 2360+ all the way to 2391,2400 and a degree or,didn`t do the NVQ)and written recomendation from CEOs from three plc they would award me the card .But when it came had labourer on it ,they try there best but they do have a hard job and they have to set the standard somewhere and at some qualification. They do amaze me though that even with letters and a Bsc(Hons) you can still be a labourer so the card is in my office in Denmark till xmas in pride of place next to my Bsc(Hons),I managed to work for twenty plus years in major electrical contracts all over the world only to be told by JIB i`m dont get my card today sorry.