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I have one double socket in my kitchen (its part up the upstairs ring) ...and i need to change it to three doubles


Is it ok to use the double back box that is currently in the wall, to joint and extend the ring (and place a double blank plate over) then chase down and fit three doubles?

If so what type of connectors should i use, wagos?

Be nice ...........
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My apprenticeship was as an industrial electrical engineer, and of course you learn about extending RFC's. If you want to talk regs, or even the law, then it is notifiable. End of.
For all any of us know, any person asking for help on here could be Manny the handyman, asking for advice on how to earn a living from "having a go" at notifiable work.
If I tell you that I'm a bank, will you lend me all your money? :)
yep...if folk want to do anything on their own homes/property....then let em i say.....but just handing out advice/info off the cuff.....
 
I'm a funny old fellow me...
I don't hate part P and moan about it like everyone else does
But I dont go around enforcing it either...like everyone else does

The guy obvioulsy knows what hes doing and how to do it, its his house, If I was in his situation I'd do it myself and not notify so I'd be a hypocrit to tell him he shouldn't do it.
 
I'm a funny old fellow me...
I don't hate part P and moan about it like everyone else does
But I dont go around enforcing it either...like everyone else does

The guy obvioulsy knows what hes doing and how to do it, its his house, If I was in his situation I'd do it myself and not notify so I'd be a hypocrit to tell him he shouldn't do it.

I don't hate part P, I hate that some people ignore it and don't bother forking out the hard-earned cash that most of us do, resulting in the electricians who do things by the book trying to compete on an uneven basis.
You don't know who's qualified and competent any more than I do, along with not really knowing if it even is their own house, hence I try to be careful what I advise people to do.
As for enforcing part P... explain how we manage that. I thought we were merely trying to let people understand what their obligations are, regardless of whether they suit them.
 
i also had to double take at the picture. thought it was a spur.

just my 2ps, this is an extention to a ring circuit. and is notifiable works, and as such should be inspected after the works have taken place be that by the qualified electrican doing the work or the buildings control.
if you are doing this as a diy'er or a homeowner i would advise that it is well within your interests to get an electrician to carry this work out and sign it off.
As im sure you are well aware, it will invaludate your home insurance. and should the work be subject to a fire. will leave you high and dry.
i know that if i were in the same boat, id pay someone.
 
personally i would use a normal nylon insulated connector to join the cables within the box or a proper crimp
those other things are for panel connections and desighned to fit onto a din rail
 
And obviously you've never seen a blank plate plasterd over then! I've seen it for too many times!

And how many times have we crimped out a socket and put on a blank plate knowing damn well the customer is going to whip off the blank plate and fill it with plaster / tile over it?
I even 'discuss' safe zones with customers sometimes while watching a small smile of 'yeah whatever' on thier faces.
 
Ive created uproar! haha, yea im not a domestic electrician, industrial! Was just seeing if this was the 'done' thing, or if there was a more preferred way of going about it..

as for part p.. ive just bought my house, there was no documentation or test certificates for any electrical work whatsoever (when does a home buyer EVER get those when buying a house..?!)

So whos to say that the electrics ive installed/may install werent already there when i bought it? no one! - it was like that when i turned up! :smilewinkgrin:

I would never do any unsafe work that would jeopardize my or any one else's safety. Nor would I do work that would cause damage to my home..

just seems crazy, thats all
 

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