Kitchen appliances

[Engineer54]

I would never suggest that you cut off any plug tops off any appliance, as this would in validate any warranty on that appliance.

Sav

How many more times!!!! NO IT Doesn't!!!

 

[mickys86]

How many more times!!!! NO IT Doesn't!!!

Just to clarify, where do we stand on this. A guy I work with is adamant that it invalidates the warranty. If I tell him it doesn't I'm going to need more than "a guy off the Internet told me"

 

[DaveyD]

Just to clarify, where do we stand on this. A guy I work with is adamant that it invalidates the warranty. If I tell him it doesn't I'm going to need more than "a guy off the Internet told me"

I think if you mention E54 told you - he will know, he will understand and that is enough. Either that; or if your guy has number dyslexia you will have a nice discussion about body cream and soreness.

 

[Darkwood]

I would never suggest that you cut off any plug tops off any appliance, as this would in validate any warranty on that appliance.

Sav

This point has already been covered in other threads and NO!!!!! it dosn't invalidate the warranty, if changed or fitted to fcu by a competent person, in the event of a fault on the appliance a cover note from the electrician that it was done by himself and tested will normally do, some firms out there though will try it on and you need to get an independant technician to confirm the item hadn't gone faulty due to an incorrectly fitted plug or flex termination.
I tend to explain this to customers some dont like the thought of the hassle and some are happy to chop the plug off knowing it may be not so straight forward if it goes faulty.

 

[Engineer54]

Just to clarify, where do we stand on this. A guy I work with is adamant that it invalidates the warranty. If I tell him it doesn't I'm going to need more than "a guy off the Internet told me"

Don't for god's sake take my word for it , ...or this guy at work, get your own legal advise!!

But... i can assure you, that any connection of a domestic appliance that complies with BS 7671 in the UK, cannot invalidate a warranty, if that connection necessitates the removal of a factory fitted moulded socket!!! I work with contractual (lawful) matters on a day to day basis and have done so for years. The main culprit for coming out with all this crap, is the warranty service providers (not the actual manufacturers) that are looking for any excuse not to fulfill responsibilities....

 

[Darkwood]

If you want to ensure it has no comeback i also PAT test any appliance that i cut a moulded plug off, i have my 2377 C&G and if any customer has issues with the policy on an appliance then im always happy ring the warranty company myself on their behalf, i talk firmly and dont take any bull by any misleading carefully worded replies, like E54 says its the warranty service providers who are trained to try avoid paying out and most ppl just get fobbed off.
Ive had a computer and stereo system replaced 2yrs after the 12month warranty ran out because i know how to use the system and i will never waste my money on extended warranty options as you already legally are covered but hey! thats a totally different thread altogether.

 

[mickys86]

Ive had a computer and stereo system replaced 2yrs after the 12month warranty ran out because i know how to use the system and i will never waste my money on extended warranty options as you already legally are covered but hey! thats a totally different thread altogether.

Sounds like an interesting read......

 

[Darkwood]

Sounds like an interesting read......

Without going too indepth the consumers rights act 1979 has a clause stressing that any goods bought should give a reasonable service life, so if your warranty is one yr and on yr 3 your washer timer board goes faulty then firstly you get an independent engineer report expressing the part that is faulty is due to part alone malfuctioning before its expected lifespan and it also need to show that its not because of consumer mis-use or damage. After they accept this report they will then take the appliance etc for their own team to fault and if you are honest it should show the same verdict, part or product then replaced and sometimes all your cost of independant engineer too.

The grey area is life expectancy; up to 4yrs your usually ok but i believe 6yrs is the cutoff point and over 4yrs this is where its harder to fight your case and whether the possible cost and time are even worth it, but some products by there nature are harder to prove they weren't abused or miss-used than others.

 

[ackbarthestar]

I agree, If the removal of the moulded plug is performed by a competent electrician or something of comparable stature then your friends down at the discount store have to behave and fulfill their obligations.

I've had a couple who have refused to remove old appliances, i have one going at the present, They send drivers out, just like meter readers, who feel privileged to be wearing the corporate uniform and endowed with super-stupid powers. You phone up their managers and heyho they reappear again, just like magic.

 

[johnusher]

Switches should be inside cabinets because of kids. :90: I've the same wiring in my kitchen.

 

[Robinwood]

They should be readily accessible.
So yeh in a cupboard isn't a issue if there not buried away at the back.

You could just put sockets in the cupboards in accessible places. Then no need for isolation switches.

This is the best idea, you can use it. It costs less!!

 

[Engineer54]

Switches should be inside cabinets because of kids. :90: I've the same wiring in my kitchen.

This is the best idea, you can use it. It costs less!!

Heard all this crap before....

If i was having a brand new kitchen fitted and an electrician started talking about fixing switches and socket outlets and the like in the cabinets, he would be off the job quicker than he walked in...

The only people that don't want to see any electrical accessories on the wall above the worktop, (where they should be!!) are those that have no idea about how a kitchen functions, those that don't particularly have much use for a kitchen, and those solely interested in impressing friends and relatives with a picture perfect look. ALL will come to regret not having readily accessible switches and socket outlets where they should be....

 

[digitalspace]

I'm thinking he meant sockets solely for the integrated appliances, being put inside cupboards etc, not that ALL sockets should be hidden away from the worktop (do people actually request this?!)