Am I being thick or are kitchens supposed to be on their own circuit, I'm talking of a brand spanking new house.
 
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It's shocking that the sockets were just labelled sockets and not up or down etc, it's not good, you can tell standards are dropping.

What do you mean standards dropping. Most houses up to the 1980's only had one ring circuit for the whole house and they are still operating just fine. On an average new three bed I do one RFC for kitchen, one for the rest and/or sometimes seperate bedroom radial, sometimes not, depends really what the situation is. To be honest, additional RFC's is more about having areas split onto separate RCD's to minimise disruption under single circuit fault conditions than it is a loading issue. I still like RFC's but prefer KFC's!
 
UKsparks


you can put every socket on its own DP RCBO if you decide.

or the whole house on a radial.

its up to you!

Ye gods! A house wouldn’t need a consumer unit, it would be a full switchboard.

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I am not a great lover of radial socket circuits, but why not.?

Depending on its size ... ! Large house, single radial, surely not!

If you feel so inclined, you could do an entire house with an individual radial for each outlet. Burying this little lot in the plaster took some doing. Hiding the board was a nightmare.

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The wife wasn’t too happy with it, she divorced me.





BTW, I’ve never doled out so many thanks in a single thread, the thanks are for making me laugh, I needed cheering up ;-)
 
Ye gods! A house wouldn’t need a consumer unit, it would be a full switchboard.

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If you feel so inclined, you could do an entire house with an individual radial for each outlet. Burying this little lot in the plaster took some doing. Hiding the board was a nightmare.

knobandtubeIndustrial_zps4b0d5f86.jpg


The wife wasn’t too happy with it, she divorced me.





BTW, I’ve never doled out so many thanks in a single thread, the thanks are for making me laugh, I needed cheering up ;-)

All that kits a bit to modern for a house isn't Tony. LOL
 
What do you mean standards dropping. Most houses up to the 1980's only had one ring circuit for the whole house and they are still operating just fine. On an average new three bed I do one RFC for kitchen, one for the rest and/or sometimes seperate bedroom radial, sometimes not, depends really what the situation is. To be honest, additional RFC's is more about having areas split onto separate RCD's to minimise disruption under single circuit fault conditions than it is a loading issue. I still like RFC's but prefer KFC's!

I disagree with that statement, well at least in the area i was brought up. Even my parents house (circa 1950) had upstairs and downstairs ring circuits and dedicated washing boiler outlet and emersion heater switch wired in 7/036. And that was originally a council house, but in those days council houses were built properly and often to a much better standard than Private housing estates.
 
I disagree with that statement, well at least in the area i was brought up. Even my parents house (circa 1950) had upstairs and downstairs ring circuits and dedicated washing boiler outlet and emersion heater switch wired in 7/036. And that was originally a council house, but in those days council houses were built properly and often to a much better standard than Private housing estates.

That may be true of council stock, in areas such as my own ,where terraced houses were the vast majority, the standard rewire, at least until the seventies, was a radial comprising a landing single socket,a lounge double and a kitchen double


After the seventies until the eighties the whole house single ring became the usual with downstairs spurs and cables mostly buckle clipped to the walls

The eighties onward was when multiple rings took over and trunking raised its ugly head

I suspect the provided availability of sockets mirrored the availability of appliances and that mirrored the wealth of an area
 
New builds are wired by numpties, low skilled ones.

Bit harsh! If you work on new builds regularly you would realise that builder spec usually dictates circuits. If you have to questions whether a kitchen ring final should be on a separate circuit. It makes you the low skilled numpty!
 
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