Kitchen on own circuit

[uksparks]

Am I being thick or are kitchens supposed to be on their own circuit, I'm talking of a brand spanking new house.

 

[CharlieW]

Well of course the cooker circuit will be on its own circuit.!!

Of course! I mentioned that because someone would've questioned/commented if I didn't. You know what people are like

 

[atm84]

i would not drive a car to the max speed on the odometer, allowing 27 amps to flow on a 2.5 radial or ring circuit is not a good idea, again, my personal opinion.

One double socket can take a max of 26amps, and a piece of 2.5mm can take 27 amps hence its ok.

Why do you think the regs permit 1 double socket outlet to be soured of each other socket on the ring main.

 

[davesparks]

One double socket can take a max of 26amps, and a piece of 2.5mm can take 27 amps hence its ok.
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A BS1363 twin socket is rated for 20A, the standard compliance test is a 13A load in one socket and a 7A load in the other.

 

[ipf]

That may be true of council stock, in areas such as my own ,where terraced houses were the vast majority, the standard rewire, at least until the seventies, was a radial comprising a landing single socket,a lounge double and a kitchen double


After the seventies until the eighties the whole house single ring became the usual with downstairs spurs and cables mostly buckle clipped to the walls

The eighties onward was when multiple rings took over and trunking raised its ugly head

I suspect the provided availability of sockets mirrored the availability of appliances and that mirrored the wealth of an area

Can't agree there, Des. I worked throughout the seventies and can't remember aquiring buckle clips from wholesalers, even if they were still available. We always put two power circuits in, too. Feel you're about a decade late.

 

[atm84]

A BS1363 twin socket is rated for 20A, the standard compliance test is a 13A load in one socket and a 7A load in the other.

So what prevents someone from inserting two 13amp plug tops in a double socket?

 

[davesparks]

So what prevents someone from inserting two 13amp plug tops in a double socket?

Can you really not work the answer to that out for yourself?
The answer is nothing, the same as nothing prevents them plugging 8x13A plugs in via 4way adaptors.

 

[ipf]

So what prevents someone from inserting two 13amp plug tops in a double socket?

Or more than two.....

 

[atm84]

Or more than two.....

You mean by using an adapter? Most adapters are now fitted with 13amp fuses anyway. But still yeah. I've never heard a double socket being only rated at 20amp

 

[davesparks]

You mean by using an adapter? Most adapters are now fitted with 13amp fuses anyway. But still yeah. I've never heard a double socket being only rated at 20amp

Being fitted with a 13A fuse doesn't prevent more than one 13A load from being connected to the adaptor!

Well if you've never heard of them being rated at 20A then it cannot possibly be true can it? How often have you heard of them being rated at 26A? I mean from a reliable source not just guessing what you think it should be.

 

[Silly Sausage]

You mean by using an adapter? Most adapters are now fitted with 13amp fuses anyway. But still yeah. I've never heard a double socket being only rated at 20amp

I suspect it states the fact in BS1363 for Socket Outlets.
I don't blame you for a second though, if you haven't read it!

 

[atm84]

Can you really not work the answer to that out for yourself?
The answer is nothing, the same as nothing prevents them plugging 8x13A plugs in via 4way adaptors.

So why would manufacturer's produce sockets that are only rated at 20 amps then?

I have a MK rep coming in next week. I'll see what they have to say.

 

[atm84]

Being fitted with a 13A fuse doesn't prevent more than one 13A load from being connected to the adaptor!

Well if you've never heard of them being rated at 20A then it cannot possibly be true can it? How often have you heard of them being rated at 26A? I mean from a reliable source not just guessing what you think it should be.

You are contradicting yourself now. A double socket could only ever have a max of 26 amps connected to it ie 2 x 13 amp plug (regardless whether its a 3 way adapter, as they are fitted with 13amp fuses).

Its still more than the so called 20amps that you claim they are rated at.

 

[Silly Sausage]

1: So why would manufacturer's produce sockets that are only rated at 20 amps then?

2: I have a MK rep coming in next week. I'll see what they have to say.

1: Presumably, it's what BS1363 states.
2: He'll just say they're manufactured to BS1363, and how many can I sell you!

 

[atm84]

1: Presumably, it's what BS1363 states.
2: He'll just say they're manufactured to BS1363, and how many can I sell you!

First thing ill be doing on Monday morning is i'll be reviewing BS 1363 then. I hope I will be proven that they are only rated at 20 amps otherwise I will be furious with davesparks for wasting my time.

 

[tidyboiler]

All you need to know about them is they are like women - handy to have but can cost you a lot of money!

(with the exception of Tidyboiler who is the cheapest date I've ever had and the best Internet Bargain in the history of Google!!)