Latest on the court challenge!!!

[pogson6]

[h=3]will anything interesting be said? ...[/h]
Today, 10:30 on BBC Parliament


[h=2]Synopsis[/h] Live coverage of questions in the House of Commons to Energy and Climate Change secretary Chris Huhne and his ministerial team.

 

[mdovey]

Oh, that document makes interesting reading:

"This means that as the law currently stands, we cannot legislate to apply new tariffs, from 1 April 2012, to installations which became eligible for FITs on or after 12 December 2011."

If that sentence doesn't make it entirely clear that any such legislation would be retrospective, then the following later in the document makes it very clear:

"If our appeal were successful, we could legislate in future to apply new tariffs to installations that became eligible for FITs from a December 2011 reference date."

This following is more worrying:

"Nor does it preclude us from taking forward other proposals from the FITs consultation (e.g. new energy efficiency requirement)."

Now whilst I agree that FOE et al shouldn't back down over the court case as it sets a bad precedence for retrospective action during a consultation which shouldn't be allowed by any government department , I am beginning to worry that it is becoming a distraction from the for more important issue of the EPC rating. The proposed EPC C requirement may be far more damaging to the industry than the question of whether the reduced FIT should apply from 12/12 or 3/3

 

[The Solar King]

Anyone else notice that the BPVA supported the Government in Court? Be aware this is not a true association but a business owned by an individual. They seem to provide marketing services. As a member you could not vote this individual off or have a say in opinions put out on your behalf. They also scuppered a challenge in the House of Lords last year by giving ill informed and ill conceived information to a Peer. Not a supporter of Our Solar Future either.

All the real work is done by The Solar Trade Association. This is policy, technical standards, lobbying and much much more. All the big hitters belong, and work for the benefit of the industry.

Huhne has just praised these weasles in Parliament. That says it all. They are traitors. If you are a member, resign now.

 

[FB.]

The "big" electric company just did 21p, their figures looked bad (compared to other 21p calcs) but I think they have a more accurate measurement of direction as roof is SE but more ESE than SSE which skews year KHW and hence payback timescale.

In the calculations which companies use to provide an indication of returns, some make higher (or lower) assumptions for loss of panel output over the years, some take into account a replacement inverter (or two) and also they use different rates of inflation for electricity prices and general inflation (to which the FiT) is linked.

Therefore if you can't strip-out the influence of all the variables, it may be better just to look at the quality, price and peak output potential of each company's offering.

 

[TallPaul]

Therefore if you can't strip-out the influence of all the variables, it may be better just to look at the quality, price and peak output potential of each company's offering.

I think that's good advice thanks, I had pretty much decided to just compare the quotes with Sanyo panels and SMA inverters and hope for the best with the results!

Anyone explain why a big name company would spec a SMA SB3300 for a 4KWp system though? Roof is SE or ESE so maybe they expect the panels never to produce full output?

 

[Eco Deal]

coz they know F ALL

 

[pwboston]

Anyone explain why a big name company would spec a SMA SB3300 for a 4KWp system though? Roof is SE or ESE so maybe they expect the panels never to produce full output?

SMA themselves may advise this inverter if you have no shading issues etc, if you use SMA software then it would suggest an SB3300 for 16 panels, this could depend on where you live etc, just because it has 3300 in the name, it is a 3600w inverter.

I have just run the figures through for my region, and put in the details of temperatures etc for my region of England and the suggested inverter by SMA is the SB3300. Not too sure where you live, and im sure there is many an argument for other inverters, but your supplier/quoter maybe following the guidelines of the manufacturer.

 

[SolarCity]

Anyone else notice that the BPVA supported the Government in Court? Be aware this is not a true association but a business owned by an individual. They seem to provide marketing services. As a member you could not vote this individual off or have a say in opinions put out on your behalf. They also scuppered a challenge in the House of Lords last year by giving ill informed and ill conceived information to a Peer. Not a supporter of Our Solar Future either.

All the real work is done by The Solar Trade Association. This is policy, technical standards, lobbying and much much more. All the big hitters belong, and work for the benefit of the industry.

Huhne has just praised these weasles in Parliament. That says it all. They are traitors. If you are a member, resign now.

Absolutely. BPVA do not speak for my company and they never have. I don't see what they offer the industry anyhow.

I would welcome a visit from them so they can take a look at my order book and explain to me exactly what I'm doing wrong.

 

[SolarCity]

I think that's good advice thanks, I had pretty much decided to just compare the quotes with Sanyo panels and SMA inverters and hope for the best with the results!

Anyone explain why a big name company would spec a SMA SB3300 for a 4KWp system though? Roof is SE or ESE so maybe they expect the panels never to produce full output?

Please keep to topic. If you start a new thread, I'm sure your questions will be answered.

 

[pwboston]

well it looks certain that its going to drag itself out for a long time, so there is not much point in selling at anything other than 21p

If people get the 43p then they will have to wait and see it as a bonus, but it wont be anytime soon will it.

 

[powervan]

pvkits direct ! government appeal will take 6 weeks to be accepted! if accepted then could take a YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SRE]

I can't believe the panic buying, where are all the customers coming from? Hardly any stock at 2 of my regular suppliers ....

 

[Earthstore]

Been as flat as a witches --- for 6 weeks and today, bang, off we go again.
I feel this whole thing will cost the Government ££££'s, I did not think there would be a rush again, but me thinks different now, well up to March the 3rd anyway..

 

[SolarCity]

Likewise. Just priced a system at bare bones and the payback is still at 14 years on SAP. I can't imagine he'll falling over himself to pick up the phone and sign contracts.

This is one of the "two for the price of one" customers that Greg Barker has been chirping on about.

 

[SolarCity]

SolarCentury have resigned from the BPVA.

Does anyone have any idea exactly why the BPVA supported the DECC? Have they made any statement about this?