Lets go then lol

[Marvo]

My money goes in and who needs help gets it the old , the sick , those in need of education if your unemployed and can't pay then the rest do.my prices before £2 and£4 (examples) were for if you were in hospital .I had an operation on my arm after I was run over by a white van man . I think the operation was fantastic if they said that they wanted £20 I would have paid and been happy to pay for it

I'm trying but I'm not understanding your line of thought here. Are you suggesting everyone who goes for treatment should leave a tip like you do at a restaurant?

 

[dingledong]

I'm trying but I'm not understanding your line of thought here. Are you suggesting everyone who goes for treatment should leave a tip like you do at a restaurant?

Yes that wouldn't be a bad idea
We just have to many users and not enough givers in the nhs
So every little bit helps surely and why do you take things to the extreme every time trev ? a smAll tip of s20 becomes £20k now that is inflation
If after good service , a successful operation a show of gratitude that would go to the hospital and the amount not set in stone but what you can afford surely it would all help

 

[Guest77]

You said you'd have been happy to pay £20, hence my escalation. If it carries on, not only will you still be paying exactly the same rate of taxation you are now but you'll be forced to pay for medical treatment.
How do you feel about that?

I expect dingle would be happy to let a little disabled boy lie in the gutter dying if his parents were immigrants and if they hadn't payed enough national insurance, cars and lorries driving by ignoring him because there was a sign left by the side of him from the paramedics saying he hasn't paid his 2 quid this week, gasp what the hell is going on in this country, I hope your satisfied Thatcher.

 

[Guest77]

over 90 posts, the thread did work, well done all those who chipped in, see you in the politics forum next friday, I believe it is Tels turn to start next week

 

[trev]

So every little bit helps surely and why do you take things to the extreme every time trev ? a smAll tip of s20 becomes £20k now that is inflation

I take things to the extreme in the hope that if I magnify things it'll help you see that sometimes what you're suggesting is ridiculous.

 

[amckay]

All we gotta do is cap all politicians wages to a max of £50k and stop expenses and ban them from being directors/secretaries of their own or friends/relatives companies or their own sole tradership.
That'll stop greedy ba$tards going into politics and save the country a sh!t load of cash while not affecting public services.
We pay their wage yet they dictate to us. Time to turn the tables.

 

[Guest77]

I believe a 650 bedroom sky scraper hotel should be built in london near the commons and all MPs can have a room there, no expenses no second homes, when you are at parliament representing your people you get to stay in the hotel free of charge, but you have to pay for your meals and thats not an expense you get back out of your taxes, do this and we as a nation may have to spend a couple of hundred million to start but long term we will save billions and they won't be able to fiddle anything.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I believe a 650 bedroom sky scraper hotel should be built in london near the commons and all MPs can have a room there, no expenses no second homes, when you are at parliament representing your people you get to stay in the hotel free of charge, but you have to pay for your meals and thats not an expense you get back out of your taxes, do this and we as a nation may have to spend a couple of hundred million to start but long term we will save billions and they won't be able to fiddle anything.

Are you sure about that?

I mean REALLY sure??

Sure enough to bet your last pint of Creamflow????

 

[telectrix]

why a skyscraper, when there's loads of room in the sewers. they'll be at home with the rats.?

 

[Silly Sausage]

why a skyscraper, when there's loads of room in the sewers. they'll be at home with the rats.?

Lay off the rats Man, what harm they ever done to us!!!

 

[telectrix]

weil's disease, bubonic plague, black death, as well as roads, sanitation, education . oops, that was the romans.

 

[trev]

I believe a 650 bedroom sky scraper hotel should be built in london near the commons and all MPs can have a room there, no expenses no second homes, when you are at parliament representing your people you get to stay in the hotel free of charge, but you have to pay for your meals and thats not an expense you get back out of your taxes, do this and we as a nation may have to spend a couple of hundred million to start but long term we will save billions and they won't be able to fiddle anything.

I've been saying that for a very long time Mike, another saving would be transport costs as 13 x 50 seat coaches could be laid on daily to ferry them to and from the trough. No new building is necessary though, there's enough empty warehouse space in and around London to convert into living space.
I'd be happy to work there, I'd wire up a few chairs

 

[Adam W]

Yes I have it from the horse's mouth. My mate ran a finance department, he always said he could have ran it more efficiently with half the staff he had, the good ones, but the government dictated that he needed more than he knew he did. As a consequence he had to employ idiots because usually, the good people working in that field didn't want to work in the NHS.
What do you expect me to ome out with when someone makes idiotic judgmental statements about the whole of society but then justifys it by saying that was what the people in his block were like.
Of course I'm going to call him out about such a ridiculous thing to say.

I wasn't suggesting the people who live in my block are a cross-section of society, you stated people can't and don't spend their life living on benefits, the point I was making was people like that do exist - I've seen them.
You also suggested there aren't lots of foreign workers in the UK; again, rubbish - I've seen them.

From what I've heard I agree the NHS is perfectly capable of being better and costing less, ie making spending cuts, and it seems there is a lot of dead wood that could be trimmed back, but that dead wood is probably in a union, which makes it harder to get rid of.

 

[Adam W]

You said you'd have been happy to pay £20, hence my escalation. If it carries on, not only will you still be paying exactly the same rate of taxation you are now but you'll be forced to pay for medical treatment.
How do you feel about that?

It isn't £20k though, and isn't likely to be.
IIRC it costs about £20 for a dental checkup on the NHS, unless you're on certain benefits, in which case it's free.
That's about £20, which when I was with an NHS dentist I was prepared to pay without the fear of it suddenly escalating to £20k, me being unable to afford it and all my teeth falling out the moment the tories got in.

 

[dingledong]

Why not have a couple or three council properties set aside for mp's in there borough ?a 650 room hotel would be so bit expensive as it would never be full so make it a bit smaller.also I don't think they should have to pay for there meals but get the cooks out of a school to do the cooking , so they will know what is happening in our schools