Level of qualification needed to obtain licence?

[D Skelton]

I am genuinely interested to see what others thoughts are on this matter.

Hypothetically speaking, the government disbands the current scam schemes and puts out to tender a GasSafe style system for electricians. Costs are lower, standards maintained, enforcement carried out blah blah blah.... Lets just say the new system is hunky dory for arguments sake. The main difference however is that in order to practise as an electrician in the UK, you now legally have to hold an electricians licence. The word 'electrician' is also protected by statute from fraudulent and unlawful use and only useable by licence holders.

I want to know what qualifications you guys think an individual would have to posses in order to gain a licence and be legally allowed to call themselves an electrician.

I want to make it clear that I'm not into this becoming a Electrical Trainee bashing thread, I am genuinely interested as to be honest, I am currently on the fence and would like to hear your views.

 

[Zebra Stripe]

Never. I'll bet my house on it!

Your most likely right, and to be honest please dont stop your passionate fight for what you feel is right, I agree with most of your points by the way. Im now going to watch some breaking bad with me tea which by now is probably burnt to a crisp.

 

[D Skelton]

Im now going to watch some breaking bad

Now this is something we can agree on 100%!!! lol

 

[Guest55]

todays nvq L3 isnt worth a crap if were being honest but......

it does allow those who are not employed as cards-in apprentices to accumilate proof of on-site skills development , so it does deserve some credit.

And the JIB have decided , rightly or wrongly , that the nvq is now their benchmark requirement to full grade and are not going to budge an inch so were stuck with it.

although it is very unfortunate that their scottish counterparts arent recognising the different paths into the industry but thats for the scots to sort out themselves thus isnt a country wide issue.

 

[KAS1]

Can't wait or the breaking bad spin off series with Soul as the main man, should be out soon I hope

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I agree, it should be posted on a TAX forum, point taken. I wont mention TAX again. Also, I think just to add to this, all the bull should stop as well as its just making people cringe.

yep...

 

[Guest55]

LOLZ !!!

just looking through the poll results shows overwhelming votes in favour of the higher skills requirement of the nvq + am2 needed for a sparks "licence"...........

just like the JIBs requirements then ;-D

its nice to come full circle again lol

 

[Guest569]

yep...

Yeah I agree but its your man there that keeps taking pops.

 

[DPG]

Yeah I agree but its your man there that keeps taking pops.

Here we go again Which first, 30 pages or a 'thread closed' ??? Daz

 

[Guest569]

Here we go again Which first, 30 pages or a 'thread closed' ??? Daz

lol its true though !

 

[overskilled]

As the server melts...

 

[thekingiam]

hmm i don't think its fair for older sparks like me to be told they need to do nvq3 as in go back to an aprentiship working under someone. Even though the gate has been open for too long for any cowboys to get recognised i would rather an option too show proof of trading for minimum years before a certain date.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

well....as i sees it the government wont go there when it comes to even contemplating a Electrical Trainee gas man.....

too much comeback (although i know now of several kev`s that actively carry out gas work in folks`s properties......at least they do a drop test)...

so......

 

[Engineer54]

hmm i don't think its fair for older sparks like me to be told they need to do nvq3 as in go back to an aprentiship working under someone. Even though the gate has been open for too long for any cowboys to get recognised i would rather an option too show proof of trading for minimum years before a certain date.

Depends when you completed your time. If an AM2 or NVQ wasn't needed at that time then there should be no need for holding them now!! The new core qualification is a very different animal to the Lv3 2360 that i took. In those days you finished your time having the appropriate trade skills gained during the apprenticeship, there were no AM2 or NVQs . Alas that's not generally the case with today's students, many of which will have little to no work skills/experience, hence the need for Lv 3 AM2/NVQ's....

 

[Engineer54]

Perhaps the JIB should introduce another grade, at the bottom end of the grading system but above a labour say a domestic electrician lo

No bloody way, ...you are then back on the slippery path of deskilling. It leaves the door wide open for others to want to start lowering all the grades to suit their own purposes....

The present grades have been around a long time now, and has on the whole, served the industry well.

 

[MDJ]

Yeah I agree but its your man there that keeps taking pops.

Whats the matter with you?????? we have tried to stop this dick size competition but you keep posting about it, Let me give you some advice=Stop it!!!!!!!!