Lift supplys

[Kwakmanuk]

Hi guys hoping someone can clarify something for me. Basically I’ve been asked to fit new SWA from a fused isolator to a new rotary isolator in a lift shaft. I don’t know if I can do it based on my quals (18th edition, part P, level 3 test inspect) and that I’m not NICEIC registered yet for myself as I work for a company under their registration. I’ve been told a minor works certificate is required but don’t want to fall foul if it is notifiable work. Has anyone got any advice with regards to lift rules and regs
Many thanks

 

[westward10]

Don't you have any fundamental qualifications to support what you have?

 

[Kwakmanuk]

Don't you have any fundamental qualifications to support what you have?

Yeah I’ve got the actual certificates in my name if that’s what you mean?

 

[westward10]

I mean what do you have in qualifications apart from what you have quoted.

 

[littlespark]

As I understand it Part P is for building control on domestic properties in England and wales…. So if this lift shaft isn’t in a domestic house (you haven’t said) it shouldn’t apply.

Minor works, as you are extending the supply…. But it’s going to come down to whether they accept you without cps membership in regards their insurance.

 

[Kwakmanuk]

Ah sorry no it’s not domestic it’s commercial so I thought the same thing about part p

They say their happy that I’m not apart of a CPS and to issue the minor works but I just don’t want to be doing something that I shouldn’t especially as I am working towards being registered.

 

[westward10]

Do you have qualifications apart from what you have listed ?

 

[Kwakmanuk]

Do you have qualifications apart from what you have listed ?

I’ve also got
Level 3 Certificate in Installing, Testing and Ensuring Compliance of Electrical Installations in Dwellings

Sorry for the rubbish information like I say I just fit ev chargers so have basic qualifications

 

[brianmoooore]

As I understand it Part P is for building control on domestic properties in England and wales…. So if this lift shaft isn’t in a domestic house (you haven’t said) it shouldn’t apply.

Unless something's changed that I'm unaware of, it's not always that simple. If commercial premises share a supply with a domestic property, everything is subject to Part P.

 

[Rockingit]

Works inside a lift shaft aren’t covered by BS7671, only the supply to it. So being asked to run a supply to an ISO is fine so long as the ISO isn’t inside the shaft.

 

[littlespark]

Unless something's changed that I'm unaware of, it's not always that simple. If commercial premises share a supply with a domestic property, everything is subject to Part P.

Gimme a break. I’m in Scotland, we don’t have the pleasure of dealing with part P on a daily basis.


If the customer is happy with the OPs quals, then just carry on. But I would advise the iso outside the shaft, as Rockingit mentions

 

[Gas Bar]

You must have permisions to enter the lift shaft regardless of qualifications.A validated lift engineer must provide this safe safe entry under all conditions .I would think the initial contractor would have organised this.Maybe trying to save a few pennies or just lack of knowledge .