Light Switch in Wet Room

[topquark]

I'd hardly call 6m within arms reach!!

Arms reach from the edge of the wet area, not the water source Eng. If you had a very large shower tray (over 1.2M square). Say 2M by 2M then the reg would be arms reach from the edge of that, it wouldn't stop at 1.2M from the water source.

 

[Engineer54]

Arms reach from the edge of the wet area, not the water source Eng. If you had a very large shower tray (over 1.2M square). Say 2M by 2M then the reg would be arms reach from the edge of that, it wouldn't stop at 1.2M from the water source.

Far too much thinking into this!! As stated the shower area is 6m away and round a corner from this ever so deadly light switch!! lol!!!

 

[topquark]

I agree that in this specific case it's a most unlikely scenario. The point I am labouring is in the more general case: 1.2M from the water source should not be the regulation for basinless showers.

If you were designing a 3M x 2M basinless shower area, you'd be happy with a plate switch that was 1.2M from the water source then? Additionally you'd see no danger in that case?

 

[Engineer54]

I agree that in this specific case it's a most unlikely scenario. The point I am labouring is in the more general case: 1.2M from the water source should not be the regulation for basinless showers.

If you were designing a 3M x 2M basinless shower area, you'd be happy with a plate switch that was 1.2M from the water source then? Additionally you'd see no danger in that case?

I'm actually living with a similar situation right now, except there is a toilet and wash basin in the same room as well. The rooms floor is basically the shower basin.

As i stated before, this situation is basically the norm throughout most of the rest of the world. If people (electricians) are really that worried about switches and outlets in UK bathrooms and wet rooms, then why not supply such rooms with 10mA RCBO's... lol!!

 

[sjm]

As long as those RCBO's have a pullcord attached incase they have to be reset by someone with wet hands. lol!!

 

[Guitarist]

As I said earlier, common sense.
How many people here can honestly say that they check their tyre pressure, brake fluid etc. on their very own guided missile? There is a chance that someone with wet hands could touch a switch and get water into the contacts and end up tripping the RCD, but there is also a much higher chance that a person will be injured in their car. I think that as a society we have become sooo worried about "what-ifs" that we are over-thinking absolutely every situation. As 70's children we had no RCD protection, no brakes on our go-cart and went out playing from dawn till dusk in the holidays. I am a worrier now, I admit it, and I hate society and the media for doing this to us!

 

[DaveyD]

I would only be worried with a light switch on tiles as the tiles will get washed.

 

[Engineer54]

I would only be worried with a light switch on tiles as the tiles will get washed.

Anyone that aims water at a light switch, deserves whatever comes there way as a consequence!!! lol!!

 

[Mr Brady]

Interesting discussion, as you already have a switch box in the wall, how about a wireless switch? You would need to be able to tuck the receiver behind the light.They come in two types, with battery or using the energy from pressing the switch.Oh and I find out the hard way that it doesn't matter where the switch is, if you're soaking wet you'll get zapped.

 

[DaveyD]

True, they do was them down though - paint work not so much.

 

[Guitarist]

When I worked in industry, the night-shift cleaners used to stop/start the conveyors by firing their high-pressure water lances at the motor control boxes. Then they wondered why the units would stop working!!!
Even IP68 was no match for that kind of stupidity.

 

[Guitarist]

Interesting discussion, as you already have a switch box in the wall, how about a wireless switch? You would need to be able to tuck the receiver behind the light.They come in two types, with battery or using the energy from pressing the switch.Oh and I find out the hard way that it doesn't matter where the switch is, if you're soaking wet you'll get zapped.

Not with RCD protection. Surely nobody sane would try to operate any switch "soaking wet" ?

 

[sedgy34]

All needs doing is pop a hole through the box and wall crimp it through end ov switch out side wet room shower room whatever room

 

[shocking_eg]

just fit the switch box mounted PIR and be done with it ! haha