locking off

[wesaston]

I recently got sacked for not locking off a cooker circuit while a 37 year old electricians mate put 1 3.5mm screw in,
there was one screw missing when went into a kitchen that we was about to rewire,
and we was going to strip it out we only went in to weigh it up, I did ask the guy to put the screw in just because it was loose with only one screw being in and as the house was tenanted and other trades working I thought It best to just fix it up as we was unloading our tools and that, he was under my supervision has he only ad nvq level2 (apparently)
so if anyone knows if I was defiantly in the wrong as I cant find a definitive answer!

thank you

 

[telectrix]

locking off to fit a 3.5mm pin in a socket.? anybody who advises that must have his head so far up his arse that his ears fart.

 

[wesaston]

Ha, it was also into a plastic surface back box not a metal one so it was moulded where the screw goes in, and he had a 1000v insulated screw driver

 

[Plonker 3]

Were lock off lots supplied by your company?

What RAMS do the company have in place for that type of job?

Were you a subby, on the books, agency or on a trial period?

What was the actual reason given to you for being relieved of your duties?

 

[wesaston]

I was permenant, full time contract, I'd been there 4 years, yeah we are issued with kicking off kits, my compliance record was 100% for the last 12 months, but in the 4 years I'd been there I'd never been on the electricians tool box talks where they was told about the company policy off its gross misconduct to work on live circuits, which I never do, I wasn't aware that you'd have to be locked off to put a screw in as when your testing you'd unscrew and screw outlets while they are live ie zs at a cooker switch, we wasn't actually testing, they dismissed me sayin I let a unqualified person work on a energised circuit,

 

[shanky887614]

surely that wouldn't warrent an instant dismissal, this sounds a little odd

 

[Pete999]

I recently got sacked for not locking off a cooker circuit while a 37 year old electricians mate put 1 3.5mm screw in,
there was one screw missing when went into a kitchen that we was about to rewire,
and we was going to strip it out we only went in to weigh it up, I did ask the guy to put the screw in just because it was loose with only one screw being in and as the house was tenanted and other trades working I thought It best to just fix it up as we was unloading our tools and that, he was under my supervision has he only ad nvq level2 (apparently)
so if anyone knows if I was defiantly in the wrong as I cant find a definitive answer!

thank you

You haven't peesed your Boss off before that incident have you? sounds like he is a bit of a div ridden jobs worth

 

[trev]

It's not electricians you need, it's someone who can give you proper advice based on employment law after being told the full facts behind this because I can't help thinking there's something we're not being told here.

 

[Pete999]

It's not electricians you need, it's someone who can give you proper advice based on employment law after being told the full facts behind this because I can't help thinking there's something we're not being told here.

Thinking the same thing trev, sounds a bit odd

 

[Octopus]

locking off to fit a 3.5mm pin in a socket.? anybody who advises that must have his head so far up his arse that his ears fart.

Or be an NICEIC inspector

 

[ian.settle1]

I was permenant, full time contract, I'd been there 4 years, yeah we are issued with kicking off kits, my compliance record was 100% for the last 12 months, but in the 4 years I'd been there I'd never been on the electricians tool box talks where they was told about the company policy off its gross misconduct to work on live circuits, which I never do, I wasn't aware that you'd have to be locked off to put a screw in as when your testing you'd unscrew and screw outlets while they are live ie zs at a cooker switch, we wasn't actually testing, they dismissed me sayin I let a unqualified person work on a energised circuit,

That is what they sacked you for by the looks of things.

Have you had any previous warnings for anything at you have not told us about?

 

[telectrix]

looks to me like an excuse. sacking is cheaper than redundancy.

 

[Pete999]

That is what they sacked you for by the looks of things.

Have you had any previous warnings for anything at you have not told us about?

Ian's right, but still sounds a bit harsh, come on tell us what else has happened.

 

[Des 56]

Other possible issues aside

If you were sacked or even had as much of a rebuke for such a trivial nonsense ("locking off" to insert a screw) "my god what are these H+S nuts doing to our society",the H+S obsessed fool needs the lock shoved as far up his rear end as the longest driver you possess

In industrial work it is sometimes essential because of the environment,but for goodness sake,a bog standard domestic system accessory is being deemed as dangerous working conditions,"the missing screw", its contorting the whole basis of safe working

This modern culture seems to forget "we work with electrics through choice",we are taught to handle that force safely,we have little need for these draconian mamby pamby dictates

Overbearing H+S nuts make my blood boil,whatever happened to training people to be safe by their own skill and means
Other trades present my ---,if the remotest possibility of danger is persued it is only in the minds of those nuts who infest our society

 

[telectrix]

nail on head, des. or is that deemed to be a risk these days.