locking off

[ian.settle1]

The lad who put the screw in was under my supervision but ive not been on any supervision course, ive been told I shouldn't be supervising anybody without being on any course

Why was he put with you in the first place then?

 

[wesaston]

Exactly, they wanted kitchen rewires in a day so they took him on but they said he's only allowed to chase walls and help me pull cables in, might aswell of been on my own

 

[Knobhead]

There’s more to this than you’re letting on.

Had this been a genuine case with a reputable company a written warning would suffice.

 

[trev]

There’s more to this than you’re letting on.

Had this been a genuine case with a reputable company a written warning would suffice.

I wouldn't have thought it would have gotten that far Tony, surely a word to the wise would have done given the circumstances (of what we've been told so far anyway)

 

[Marvo]

Get yourself some professional representation and go through the appeals process.

 

[ian.settle1]

There’s more to this than you’re letting on.

Had this been a genuine case with a reputable company a written warning would suffice.

That's why I asked earlier if he had any previous warnings

 

[7029 dave]

Are you having it off with the boss's mrs.?

 

[wesaston]

How ive told it, is exactly what happened nothin more I was suspended for 2 weeks then got sacked, ive had an appeal hearing today, that's why ive asked the question on here about having to lock off just to put a screw in as I couldn't find an answer myself

 

[trev]

So what was your previous disciplinary record?
How was your time keeping?
Had you upset anyone higher up the food chain?
It's all relevant info mate but as you've been told, you need some proper advice based on employment law. Not the opinions of sparkies

 

[Plonker 3]

So did you read and then follow the company method statements and risk assessments before doing the job?

 

[Marvo]

ive had an appeal hearing today.......

If you've exhausted the internal appeals process then it's time to contact a lawyer who specialises in labour law. You're going to be a small fish in a very large tank so try find one that comes regularly recommended. Agree in advance a price for 30 minutes of his/her/its time and go prepared with everything ready to present. Forget the chit chat, sob stories, and flowery accounts of who said what, present the facts quickly, accurately and concisely, get an opinion on how he thinks you should proceed, get an opinion on the costs involved, write everything down for reference then go away and decide whether you want to instruct him to proceed. Be prepared to pay a large deposit upfront.

 

[wesaston]

I have been in touch with a solicitor that's already started this is just for my own benefit just to get other sparks opinion, I said b4 I have ad a disaplinary but it was over 2 years ago and wasn't live at the time and even that wasn't work related, my time keeping was good my compliance record was good, I was even meant to be gettin moved up prior to this, there was risk assessments and method statments on each job, they did say about working live but would you say putting a screw in was working live?

 

[wesaston]

Thanks marvo

 

[trev]

No I wouldn't. In these H&S crazed times there will be others who disagree though but to me the plastic switch front between you and any nastiness would have been safe isolation enough.

 

[Marvo]

The other option is the 'African way' which might be a long shot in the UK but it sometimes works around these parts. You get everyone and his dog to beg for your job back.

When I have to let guys go after they've been caught stealing, stabbed a fellow employee, assaulted a customer, deliberately set fire to one of my vehicles or disappeared without a trace for 6 weeks (take your pick, I've had all of these mentioned) what they do is they get everyone they know to plead for their job back. I have a stream of people through my office usually starting with the wife, then the wife with all the children (all in tears of course) then his parents (if still alive, if not then someone old pretending to be them) then his priest (even though he hasn't set foot in a church since he was baptised) then his sister(s) brother(s) nephews nieces and on and on it goes for weeks sometimes.