locking off

[Pete999]

nail on head, des. or is that deemed to be a risk these days.

Or key in the lock, or maybe not then.

 

[shanky887614]

Other possible issues aside

If you were sacked or even had as much of a rebuke for such a trivial nonsense ("locking off" to insert a screw) "my god what are these H+S nuts doing to our society",the H+S obsessed fool needs the lock shoved as far up his rear end as the longest driver you possess

In industrial work it is sometimes essential because of the environment,but for goodness sake,a bog standard domestic system accessory is being deemed as dangerous working conditions,"the missing screw", its contorting the whole basis of safe working

This modern culture seems to forget "we work with electrics through choice",we are taught to handle that force safely,we have little need for these draconian mamby pamby dictates

Overbearing H+S nuts make my blood boil,whatever happened to training people to be safe by their own skill and means
Other trades present my ---,if the remotest possibility of danger is persued it is only in the minds of those nuts who infest our society

ive made mistakes working live but because of good working practise no one was injured or hurt.

we use vde tools for a reason, for safety.

the screw would be earthed by the earthbar on the accessory so they were in no danger at all

 

[Pete999]

ive made mistakes working live but because of good working practise no one was injured or hurt.

we use vde tools for a reason, for safety.

the screw would be earthed by the earthbar on the accessory so they were in no danger at all

Working live, wash yer mouth out with carbolic soap, what mistakes did you make?

 

[Englishman]

So who informed bosses that you were allowing somebody to "work on a live circuit" which wasn't happening anyway, not much different to saying that putting a plug in is working on a live socket

 

[telectrix]

does me head in. all this palaver about working live. next thing is the RNLI will only be allowed to use their lifeboats on dry land in case they get drowneded.

 

[shanky887614]

Working live, wash yer mouth out with carbolic soap, what mistakes did you make?

your working live every time you take a ze or zs.

 

[Simonslimline]

your working live every time you take a ze or zs.

Surely this isn't what you mean though in post 17?

 

[trev]

your working live every time you take a ze or zs.

There is a masssive difference between live working and live testing. One is a necessity, the other is not (in the vast majority of cases)

 

[Des 56]

ive made mistakes working live but because of good working practise no one was injured or hurt.

we use vde tools for a reason, for safety.

the screw would be earthed by the earthbar on the accessory so they were in no danger at all

The electrician may on occasion need to work live,in order to work live,he needs to acquire the skill and experience in order that he is not in danger himself and others are not put in danger

Always and for every moment the danger should be foremost in his mind.
He needs this awareness to be safe
Denying the electrician training and experience of working live puts that electrician and others working around him in danger when occasion requires

I know what the EWR say about working live,but real life sometimes deviates from the text book version of what is needed

 

[shanky887614]

Surely this isn't what you mean though in post 17?

nope its not, the worst ive done is trip tp mcb's

if i touched the copper i would have got a shock but because of my habbit of always touching everything to earth before after testing i realised it was now live.

 

[wesaston]

I have had a disaplinary but it was about 3 years ago and wasn't live

 

[trev]

Shanky, most people use a voltage indicator mate.

 

[wesaston]

The lad who put the screw in was under my supervision but ive not been on any supervision course, ive been told I shouldn't be supervising anybody without being on any course

 

[Pete999]

your working live every time you take a ze or zs.

Thats live testing it's different, or so they tell me.

 

[wesaston]

The compliance officer who came to the job, which I rang him to tell him where I was Workin so I wouldn't knowingly then work unsafe