met cowboy spark today.

[pritch]

Went to a job today to fit new sw spur for cooker hood extract and supply eic cert for the ring I worked on. While I was there a guy was stood in the kitchen marking out the walls for sockets . The lady told me he was a local odd job man who is also tiling the wall . She said our company were to expensive to do the lot so he will do the rest . They only wanted me to do the extract and provide a cert which then allows our Fitters to plug in the appliances.I asked the guy if he had part p and he said he never heard of it. I then told the customer who couldn't care less. While the cowboy was just about to spur off the socket 3 times I told him to leave all the work until I've finished testing. What more can you do ?

 

[tonys]

Nah I had the last laugh when I got in my £24'000 warrior and he got in his 20 year old transit smoker

Would you laugh, if you see me getting in my 5 year old Berlingo ? You must loaded being able to own a big vehicle like a warrior.

 

[pritch]

Would you laugh, if you see me getting in my 5 year old Berlingo ? You must loaded being able to own a big vehicle like a warrior.

your totally missing the point. You said in certain words that the guy must be laughing at me for having part p and him not . If you can't deal with the replies don't fuel the fire.

 

[malcolmsanford]

You have to admit though pritch that you stoke your own fire. If I remember correctly at the end of last year you came on here and in another thread posted that your on about 60k ( or there abouts ) a year, and that you were only working 10 months a year. Now your telling us all about your warrior, you seem to wear your alleged earning potential and wealth as some kind of badge of honour mate, but then make remarks about completeing EIC paperwork when it is clearly just a MEIWC ................... Perhaps a little humilty may stop people having a dig

 

[pritch]

You have to admit though pritch that you stoke your own fire. If I remember correctly at the end of last year you came on here and in another thread posted that your on about 60k ( or there abouts ) a year, and that you were only working 10 months a year. Now your telling us all about your warrior, you seem to wear your alleged earning potential and wealth as some kind of badge of honour mate, but then make remarks about completeing EIC paperwork when it is clearly just a MEIWC ................... Perhaps a little humilty may stop people having a dig

Been out of domestic for a while now so I'm a bit rusty in that department. Giving out a eic instead of a minor is not really such a bad mistake. The other thread I replied to was asking about what sparkys earn , I replied what was the truth and now I'm being told for doing so I should expect flak. I've seen forums like this before where the old members dictate in the threads and then shout people down.

 

[malcolmsanford]

Old forum member or new, you have to deal with human nature, personally what you earn and drive is of little relevance to me, I was just trying to give you some advice, I'd hoped you might have taken it in the spirit it was intended, but if you hadn't then it is your decision.

 

[rocker]

Guys, guys, we're getting somewhat off topic.

 

[telectrix]

don't like topics, they've got nuts in 'em

 

[UNG]

Class nick!

We get annoyed with it because we do pay the 450 per year, and then some joker can come along and do shoddy work and have no worries about recourse because there's no one to tell him off. This is a prevailing issue on this forum lately but what you always seem to conveniently forget is it's the law and the law is the law is the law. And we all know that people 'choose to forget certain laws' and apparently that's alright...... but at the end of the day it's NOT alright and if you get caught breaking the law you will (or should) be punished. That's why it's the 'law', not the 'do this if you can be bothered'.

While there are people who are not registered and do shoddy work there are people who are registered and do shoddy work there are also people who do the work to the required standard without registration.

Just because money has changed hands for registration to a scheme provider is no indication of the quality of the work carried out let's face it when the assessment is due they actually check a very minute percentage of the work that has been done in last year

I cannot understand why there is an assumption that the work is going to be shoddy if the person doing the work is not registered with a scheme

 

[ian.settle1]

Give them the cert get your money then say you've informed the LABC that they are having work done in the kitchen and they have not notified them. Then run

 

[mogga]

oes a nice new van ect determine that you wont carryout shoddy work??????

havent you watched Cowboy builders how many of the cowboys run nice new vans and cars?? and the guys who travel round the country tarring driveways have shiney vans and cars

Prime example is Durhams fav Mr Electric nice van but employ anyone willing to pay them

 

[malcolmsanford]

It's not Al from the Wirral is it??

 

[tonys]

your totally missing the point. You said in certain words that the guy must be laughing at me for having part p and him not . If you can't deal with the replies don't fuel the fire.

I never miss the point when one feels superior to others in terms of material items and financial importance. But there are those who are Cash Rich but tend to keep it to themselves and drive about in average vans lol

 

[rocker]

While there are people who are not registered and do shoddy work there are people who are registered and do shoddy work there are also people who do the work to the required standard without registration.

Just because money has changed hands for registration to a scheme provider is no indication of the quality of the work carried out let's face it when the assessment is due they actually check a very minute percentage of the work that has been done in last year

I cannot understand why there is an assumption that the work is going to be shoddy if the person doing the work is not registered with a scheme

That's not the point I was trying to make mate. I know full well that you can be a damn good sparks without being registered, and vice versa, I don't dispute that.

The point I was trying to make was that the law says you have to be registered (or go through LABC) for certain types of work, and that is the case regardless of how good you are. You can't say 'well I'm fully qualified and got my JIB and I've been doing this for 20 years etc etc so I'm not going to bother registering with Part P because I deem it to be a silly law' and then moan when you get told off..... I reckon I'm a good driver, but I don't say 'well I'm not going to get insurance because why should I? I'm an experienced driver I've been driving for years, I've passed my test and my pass plus, I'm not going to crash, so why should I have insurance? Insurance in this country is just a money making scheme I don't agree that I should have to pay for it.'

I don't think you'd have to look far to find people with the same kind of attitude as this with insurance, but we still all get car insurance because it's the law - we have to abide by it whether we agree with it or not.

Oh and tonys, while I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree that wealth shouldn't be flaunted and used to show off with, I'm afraid I'm going to have to, once again, point out your double standards.... were you not they person on here not 3 weeks ago telling me that you make enough to take the school summer holidays off each years and can do this, that and the other, while I will amount to nothing if I keep paying my elecsa fees? Or words to that effect, anyway. I'm not sure you agree with your own sentiment, which makes me wonder why you'd say it....

 

[tonys]

Rocker

Taking 30 days unpaid holiday a year is not flaunting wealth and showing off, far from it.

People on the cards get a minimum of 20 paid days I believe and the bureaucrats behind the part p scheme earn a lot more money than us people on the tools and accumulative nice big pension pots at the end of their service and lets not forget along the way earn good salaries and take plenty of paid holidays.

 

[ecclescake]

Cowboy sparks have been around long before part p and the 6 week wonders have. They won't go away just something you'll have to get used to.