Meters and boards Question

[Luke105]

I work for a company who installs electric heaters.

Usually we remove old storage heaters and replace them with our heaters using the same point with a new switched fcu.

The fuse board is usually just an old Wylex type with just an on off switch and non switched fuses.
The board is powered from the live coming out of the radio teleswitch meter so to make the board live 24 hours we remove this cable and put it into a Henley block which has permanent live feed.

The questions are....
Are we allowed to touch these meters as there are stickers all over them saying property of the electricity board.

Secondly, using the old points coming from the old style board with just an on off switch. Is this ok?

 

[Strima]

As you are changing the supply over to a permanent feed from the meter how are you isolating the supply to do this safely? Are you pulling the main DNO fuse?

 

[Luke105]

So, even more basically, you're bypassing the E7 unit, that having no output cable. As said previously, you're re feeding a CU.
Is a bit of swerving the regs going on, is your queston, then.

Yes, the live into the

So, even more basically, you're bypassing the E7 unit, that having no output cable. As said previously, you're re feeding a CU.
Is a bit of swerving the regs going on, is your queston, then.

So, even more basically, you're bypassing the E7 unit, that having no output cable. As said previously, you're re feeding a CU.
Is a bit of swerving the regs going on, is your queston, then.

yes as the live stays in the radioteleswi

What certification is being issued?

None as far as I’m aware.

 

[Luke105]

As you are changing the supply over to a permanent feed from the meter how are you isolating the supply to do this safely? Are you pulling the main DNO fuse?

Yes sometimes pulling the main fuse.
During the day the eco7 tail is dead due to being out of hours.
But yes...to hack into the permanent live tail the fuse would have to be pulled.

 

[Strima]

Yes sometimes pulling the main fuse.
During the day the eco7 tail is dead due to being out of hours.
But yes...to hack into the permanent live tail the fuse would have to be pulled.

So are you trained and accredited to do this?

 

[Luke105]

So are you trained and accredited to do this?

I’m just asking does the board need upgrading.
I’d highly doubt I’m accredited to do this main fuse pulling but reading threads on here it seems loads do it

 

[Toneyz]

What is the main reason for the post as it seems that there is no design and you have concerns that what you are being briefly told to do your not happy with the method?
Are you doing these on an estate where the houses are mostly the same?

 

[Deleted member 105166]

Aside from everything else that is wrong here, why are you risking your life by assuming dead just based upon the time of day that it *shouldn’t* be energised? Madness.

 

[Luke105]

What is the main reason for the post as it seems that there is no design and you have concerns that what you are being briefly told to do your not happy with the method?
Are you doing these on an estate where the houses are mostly the same?

Just curious on opinions

 

[Luke105]

Aside from everything else that is wrong here, why are you risking your life by assuming dead just based upon the time of day that it *shouldn’t* be energised? Madness.

Well obviously I’m not assuming anything. I always make sure.
I’m just making a point of it “should be” dead.

 

[Luke105]

Aside from everything else that is wrong here, why are you risking your life by assuming dead just based upon the time of day that it *shouldn’t* be energised? Madness.

What’s wrong exactly? Aw that’s what I’d like to know

 

[Deleted member 26818]

From what I understand, you’re working for a company that is making a profit out of you working unsafely.
Your company should either arrange for the DNO to attend to pull the fuse, or get someone accredited to do it.

 

[ipf]

I’m just asking does the board need upgrading.
I’d highly doubt I’m accredited to do this main fuse pulling but reading threads on here it seems loads do it

Luke, as you seem to know, there are a few more problems than changing the CU to deal with, although interpretation of regulations may be involved in the actual answer you're after.
If no certification is involved who is the work being done for?
There seems plenty corner cutting going on, some of it dangerous.

 

[Deleted member 105166]

What’s wrong exactly? Aw that’s what I’d like to know

You are not authorised to pull the DNO’s fuse and from what you’ve said, you have come across vague with regards to other aspects covered by BS7671 that covers the overall installation, demand, diversity, testing, certification, etc. And you’re not proving dead.

 

[Luke105]

Luke, as you seem to know, there are a few more problems than changing the CU to deal with, although interpretation of regulations may be involved in the actual answer you're after.
If no certification is involved who is the work being done for?
There seems plenty corner cutting going on, some of it dangerous.

Well if I was working for myself in this situation then I’d rather just put an upto date 6way board in for example which actually has protection with circuit breakers instead of old rewirables.

I genuinely have no idea if we should be pulling fuses out for opening the meters to remove a tail.
I’m just doing what the company has asked me to do to carry out the job

 

[Deleted member 105166]

In fairness Luke, credit to you for coming on here and asking questions, as you clearly are not comfortable that what you’ve been told to do is correct.