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Many individuals ask how to become a 'qualified' electrician (as I once did). But they should really be asking how to become a 'competent' electrician, since competency is the key to success for anyone looking to join the trade. Qualifications are actually only part of the process. It's safe to say that you can't become a 'competent' electrician unless you are both 'informed' and 'skilled' - you will be 'informed' when you have studied and gained qualifications, and you will be 'skilled' when you have suitable hands-on practical experience.

I've been lurking around this site for a couple of years and it has helped me with some of my own decisions to get to where I am today. So, I thought I'd share my story for those who may be in a similar position to what I was when I made the decision to become and electrician.

There are many paths to becoming an electrician, and there is probably no wrong route to the end goal of earning money as a spark. The path you choose is very much a personal decision based on your own individual circumstances. This post outlines how I achieved my goal, based on my own circumstances, which will be similar to others who are looking for a career change, but have not yet taken the plunge.

My career change began in 2010 when I was 35 years old - On reflection, I think I was probably going through a mid-life crisis, questioning my own life choices, blah, blah, etc... My previous job was in I.T. I worked for 10 years in the same office, dealing with crappy office politics and the daily monotony of office routine. Fortunately, the job paid enough to allow me to save a little money in case of emergencies. Having a natural aptitude for science and engineering, I decided to escape the daily monotony and pursue a career as an electrician (without really knowing what to expect from it). So, with just enough money in the bank to cover my mortgage payments for 6 months, and enough money to pay for an electrician 'course', I made the decision to quit my job and force myself into my new chosen career. When my family and friends found out that I threw away the security of my previous job, they thought I had lost my mind. My divorced parents of 15 years were suddenly talking again, trying to establish where they went wrong and how they could fix me. And so there I was - with a worried family, and 6 months to get some text book knowledge, some on-site experience, and ultimately some paid employment before the bailiffs would be knocking at my door.

Here is the path I took to become a competent electrician:

Firstly, I bought a package of C&G courses from a private college. They sent me piles of course materials and I instantly became a book-worm at home. Having no job helped me to focus and learn faster. I took the courses over a period of 4 months in the following order:

C&G 2382 - 17th Edition Wiring Regulations
C&G 2377 - Portable Appliance Testing
C&G 2393 - Building Regulations
C&G 2392 - Initial Verification, Inspection & Testing
C&G 2391 - Inspection & Testing

For each of the above courses, my course provider gave 1 week in-house training prior to sitting each exam, but I spent many hours sat at home absorbing information prior to attending each course. I made it my mission to know as much theory as possible, before receiving any training.

During the fourth stage of my training (C&G 2392), I started hunting around for established electrical firms that might be willing to take me on and help me gain experience in my mission to become a competent electrician. I knew that for someone to spend time showing me how to physically do things would initially cost them money, so I wasn't expecting to be paid in return for their help! I took the view that if I could prove my ability and provide them with some kind of value as soon as possible, they would hopefully offer me some kind of monetary employment. Incidentally, I didn't just wing off a load of CVs to random companies by email and keep my fingers crossed for someone to reply - I decided to take a more direct approach and pick up the phone. Maybe I was lucky, but the first company I spoke to agreed to let me shadow one of their electricians.

After 3 weeks of fast-paced on-the-job experience, the company won a couple of contracts and found themselves needing additional staff, and so offered me a paid sub-contracting position. It's nearly 2 years since that day, and I now have my own electrician's mates and apprentices working for me - some of them in a similar position to what I was. I'm now in a situation where I'm running my own teams on a number of projects and I can look back and smile at my initial fears of the unknown.

I know there is a certain amount of luck to my story, but I believe that luck is greatly increased through taking confident and positive action. I hope that my story inspires others in a similar situation to go forth and do what they know they can do.

If you have a similar positive story, please feel free to share...
 
Not necessarily mate, some do the short course route and realise they don't know enough and go on to 2330 just like Glennspark did.
Do you think Strima would be as you describe above? I don't. He freely admits he's a Electrical Trainee but he knows his stuff

Indeed - everyone has different capabilities, and personal circumstances are different. As I said in my original post, there are a number of methods to enter the trade, and IMO, none of them are wrong.
 
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Not necessarily mate, some do the short course route and realise they don't know enough and go on to 2330 just like Glennspark did.
Do you think Strima would be as you describe above? I don't. He freely admits he's a Electrical Trainee but he knows his stuff

But he has probably got experience, he has probably worked along side other electricians. I'm not being stereotypical but if you do 5 weeks in a classroom then are set loose on your own. I don't care what anyone says, it is going to be dreadful. Isn't it? And if they continue to work on their own, how will they know any different? They haven't got a spark standing over them shouting at them to do it better. Showing them right from wrong.
 
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After 2 years in the industry there was no way in hell I was competent to be let out on my own and I worked bloody hard for me C&Gs

Oh I don't know Trev after 2 years
I could name nearly all the tools in my sparks canvas bag, which wasn't many,
I could sweep a floor and keep the dust down due to my vast experience in dust/water ratio,
I didn't make a bad cup of tea, but the washing up bit in the plasterers drum left a lot to be desired,
I could run off a 25mm conduit nipple in less than a minute,
Drill just the right degree hole in a hickey block,
Managed to grow that extra arm in order for me to bring all the required material to the proper workers without holding them up too much
Could be deadly accurate a 3/8 copper pipe putty gun over 20 feet
Be able to find several decent hiding places for a kip
back chat the sparks and still be able to escape without to much damage
Lie to publicans about my age
work out a Yankee four way bet to it's nearest penny
Know the difference between when to back chat and when to stay stum

..........................................and finally realize that when the sparks told me "son when I hang my overalls up at night they know more than you "
 
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for methods id call them back doors,thats not a dig at anyone but what other profession would accept a free for all as were seeing now,and more worrying is the only people that seem to care are the sparks themselves,the companies dont care,the schemes dont care the gov dont care,where the industry will be in 10 yrs time is anyones guess,we might even have the spanish taking the **** out of our work..:shout:
 
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But he has probably got experience, he has probably worked along side other electricians. I'm not being stereotypical but if you do 5 weeks in a classroom then are set loose on your own. I don't care what anyone says, it is going to be dreadful. Isn't it? And if they continue to work on their own, how will they know any different? They haven't got a spark standing over them shouting at them to do it better. Showing them right from wrong.

Working alongside other electricians certainly accelerated my learning curve. It was a 2-way benefit, too. The guy who I shadowed wasn't fresh out of training and benefited from my recent knowledge. Made for a fun experience!
 
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IMO you can not and never will getter any better than a full time served apprenticeship.

Only after a good 3 - 4 years of solid consistant training can you even think to go out there alone. Someone made the point in a previous post its only when you qualify you realise just how much you dont know.

IMO doing 6, 10 or 12 weeks at college can never equate to one day a week and the rest alongside i time served spark 4 year apprenticeship.

How could you ever possibly have the respect for the trade when your calling yourself qualified or competent in 6 weeks when in a recognised apprenticeship it takes years !!

I started out straight from school with the London Electricity Board (Best tools ever they supplied) and the way they taught people theyd have you believe you were never qualified !! Similar to malcs quote "Ive forgotten more than youll ever know my son " as i whack a nice dollop of yellow 77 in his tea !!
 
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On the bigger jobs the time served guys wouldn't let the apprentices take break with them which at the time I thought was really unfair. Only when I joined their ranks in the time served cabin did I realise it was the only way they could get away from the constant questions of the keen lads and the stupidity of the ones who weren't
 
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IMO to have you as a supervisor is a risky business. Yes you do feel competent but feeling you are and being it are different. However it depends on how much of a lead role you actually take in the supervising of the teams.

I don't think you would be a competent supervisor in the true sense, and certainly not in a qualified sense. The JIB wouldn't grade you as an electrician and certainly not a site supervisor. Does your contracts manager etc have a lot of involvement? its my guess/hope that he is keeping a close eye on you.

Congratulations on what you have achieved, a few luck breaks and your doing well for yourself.

I just don't think it is a good idea to glorify a route to supervisory level that isn't approved nor recommended by a majority.

That said i think you should carry on with your learning and good luck for the future, it is certainly not pointless. If you lost this job tomorrow then what would happen.
 
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First of all there is no such thing as a "Qualified Electrician" in the eyes of the law, only competent and I don't envisage that changing either with good reason.

Secondly, the industry itself has no criteria as yet for what the requirements need to be to become Qualified.

You can have all the Qualifications in the world, will it make you competent, not necessarily.

How do you define a spark from another, who's competent to Design, Install and Test on Industrial System's, someone who has the 2330 and am2? From the many sparks I know I wouldn't let them design a commercial, install and test it, and they have been in the game for years and are "Qualified electricians". Hence why the law will always require competency.

As for industry, they are stuck with the headache as to how to distinguish the differing levels of competency. You only need to look at all the forums to see how apparent "Qualified Electricians" fail to grasp the fundamentals.

Bp, I don't think the 2330 would do you any harm, on the other hand I'm not sure how much use it may be as well.

Good luck, and don't get to hung up on what some are saying.
 
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the 2330 is no longer (unless your already on it), but was the starting point imo, all the op has are a bunch of add-on quals which a qualified spark would do to add to a cv.

the recognised main qual now is the 2357 and incorparates the nvq am2 and is the one the op should realy be aiming for if he wants to make it in the game.
 
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*deep sigh*

The whole point to my original post has become completely lost in translation. I give up. lol!


not realy,, im just trying to give you and others who want to try and get a trade some advice, one day you might want to work on sites and its the recognised route i was on about, the main route people should be advised to take in becoming a qualified spark. do as you please its a free world but posters are only trying to add to your post which imo was the wrong way to start in the trade. you seem to be getting along so fair play to you.
 
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Secondly, the industry itself has no criteria as yet for what the requirements need to be to become Qualified.

This isnt true. If I phone an agency now and I ask for either an Electrician, Approved Electrician or a Technician. They send what is asked for based upon a grading awarded based upon qualifications. You cant be graded if your not qualified so hence there is a recognised path.

The path has been lost somewhat in domestic so it seems but saying its across the industry is wrong.

If I get a call later today asking for an electrician on day works at one of the premises we look after, I couldn't send the OP to do the job, he wouldn't get through the door as they will only accept JIB graded as qualified.

As said earlier, the OP is doing well at the moment and hopefully continues to do so. However if that job came to an end I suspect another supervisory role could be a problem without the foundations that are seen as standard.
 
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