nelson mandela

[telectrix]

so that's why my parcels were always late.

 

[moospark]

Desperate times, My Dad took us over there in 1968 (had my first birtday on the boat). There was a deal where Engineers etc. could go to S.A. or Oz for a tenner, He chose S.A. 'cos he liked the music. The Ozzies were/are just as big racists anyway. My mother got "black balled" at the office she worked at because she let it out that she let our nanny use the same bath as she bathed her children in, she, Winnie by the way, lived in a corrugated shack in the townships, no running water. Anyway, don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes.

 

[not clever]

Bored of the Mandela stuff now!

 

[telectrix]

i've not even got any of his records.

 

[odawire]

Yes he played a part in the NI peace process,he advised the IRA to keep their guns so they wouldnt lose the threat of violence.He was a murdering piece of filth, the head of the military wing of the ANC.The only reason he wasnt released earlier was because he wouldnt renounce violence and thats the reason Amnesty International would not help him.Go and ask the families of the white farmer women who were gang raped to death or the blacks who were covered in petrol and burnt to death or the little children blown up in the bus bombings directly on his orders what a great man he was and see what reply you get

He was a murdering communist piece of filth and they should have put a rope around his neck years ago

The black people in SA never asked to be treated like s**t.

 

[Badged01]

Bored of the Mandela stuff now!

Big yawn here too!

 

[i=p/u]

I've just finished work with guy who loved there30 years , he said thee own people treat them like ****. No1 else.

here in uk we say treat people how you like to be treated. I'd say South Africa is different ball game....

 

[cmac70]

A man with a vision. Once a happen there was a lone female. How things can change if you believe In what you stand for. How things can change.

 

[odawire]

I've just finished work with guy who loved there30 years , he said thee own people treat them like ****. No1 else.

here in uk we say treat people how you like to be treated. I'd say South Africa is different ball game....

You have heard of apartheid? Have a think about it before you come on here talking nonsense, everyone on this thread putting down Mandela is talking out their arse. The government treated the black people like **** and for a long time the world accepted it, anything that happened while they were fighting for equality was fair game, end of

 

[odawire]

Desperate times, My Dad took us over there in 1968 (had my first birtday on the boat). There was a deal where Engineers etc. could go to S.A. or Oz for a tenner, He chose S.A. 'cos he liked the music. The Ozzies were/are just as big racists anyway. My mother got "black balled" at the office she worked at because she let it out that she let our nanny use the same bath as she bathed her children in, she, Winnie by the way, lived in a corrugated shack in the townships, no running water. Anyway, don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes.

Ten pound Poms! My parents nearly went for that, I was very nearly an aussie.

 

[Badged01]

I was very nearly an aussie.

Struth, you had a lucky escape .....

 

[Badged01]

.... anything that happened while they were fighting for equality was fair game, end of

Dangerous, once you start along the path of the means justifies the end then we do have problems! Every terrorist organisation is vindicated in what it does, because ultimately that is what it becomes -- terrorism (unless of course the superpowers support you and you are known as 'freedom fighter' but the same carnage occurs! )

 

[odawire]

Dangerous, once you start along the path of the means justifies the end then we do have problems! Every terrorist organisation is vindicated in what it does, because ultimately that is what it becomes -- terrorism (unless of course the superpowers support you and you are known as 'freedom fighter' but the same carnage occurs! )

Well this is the problem, Mandela was a terrorist. The press and the governments of the world lead us to believe that things are either right or wrong, black or white. But intelligent people can see that it is not the case. The worlds problems are too complicated to be that simple, however in the case of SA I would say they were clearly justified in their actions.

 

[moospark]

Ten pound Poms! My parents nearly went for that, I was very nearly an aussie.

He stuck it for three years, ran up a load of credit, hired a car, did a big old road trip (only 24) and buggered off back to Gateshead. Snow and outside netties were a bit of a shock to me, not to mention turning up for the first day of school talking like an alien.

 

[tidyboiler]

Ten pound Poms! My parents nearly went for that, I was very nearly an aussie.

Loads of my relatives went over to NZ and some to Oz, then swapped Countries. So most are in NZ now because they reckon the standard of living is so much better there. They have never looked back really and feel sorry for us that didn't go on the tenner trip. Only one of them wants to come back to the UK but sometimes I wish we had gone too.