Neon screwdrivers help!!!!

[Sparky12021986]

ok 2 part thread first is a question that i need to ask....

With regard to test equipment used by electricians state: Why the use of a screwdriver incorperating the use of a neon indicator, for verifying isolation does not comply with the requirements of GS 38...

THANKS....

and part 2 of this thread is to ask you all what is your views on the neon screwdriver as i have heard that a lot of people do not like them where as some others do like them...

 

[mickys86]

The Wera one is actually quite good.....

Push and twist into a plaster board wall and depending how deep you go, you can a hole ready for a 5, 6 or 7mm rawl plugs, saves getting a drill out.

Hahahaha

 

[mickys86]

another argument against using them on anything live is that they are not VDE .

I'm sure my super top of the range wera one had vde on it. I'm gonna take it out of the shiny box when I get home

 

[rmaynard]

they are pretty good terminal drivers....once all the guts have been pulled out

 

[sparkdog]

They used to be standard kit in the 1960s but I wouldn't use anything other than a proper voltage tester and proving unit nowadays.I don't really trust testers with filament lamps either.

 

[tony mc]

They include a neon because they cant even give them away so they force them on you.
But i was in CEF today and on the counter was a box of testers reduced from £1.99 to 99p thinking of getting a job lot and flogging them on here ......................to open air-fix paint pots OBVIOUSLY.

Looking at the recent post re British Gas I hope they don't find out about this just in case they decide to add it to the testing equipment that they issue!!!

 

[telectrix]

thought they were BG's main test equipment,

 

[SimpleSimon]

thought they were BG's main test equipment,

No it's tongue first, don't want to damage the equipment. :goofy:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

ok 2 part thread first is a question that i need to ask....

With regard to test equipment used by electricians state: Why the use of a screwdriver incorperating the use of a neon indicator, for verifying isolation does not comply with the requirements of GS 38...

THANKS....

and part 2 of this thread is to ask you all what is your views on the neon screwdriver as i have heard that a lot of people do not like them where as some others do like them...

these things are deadly ...and should be banned..or summat.....if you need to verefy wether a voltage is present/sitting on something...whatever then an approved voltage indicator to GS38 is the answer.......seen loads of kitchen fitters pull these "neons" out of the toolbox and it makes me cringe.....should all be snapped in half or hammered to bits wherever they turn up......neons that is......

 

[bugsy]

 

[mickys86]

Hey tel, the neon out of the wera set definitely has the vde stamp on it

 

[telectrix]

hammered to bits wherever they turn up......neons that is......

now we all know you meaN KITCHEN FITTERS.

 

[WPD Lad]

We use junior testoscopes as approved pieces of kit, we can only use them to prove live as there's no proving unit for them

Junior Testoscope

Drummond test lamps are used the most though, we don't touch 'volt sticks' as they're very erroneous!

 

[Dave 85]

I used to use a neon driver as an apprentice before I (and my boss) discovered volt sticks. If you're well earthed they go really bright and you can actually feel the current going through you. Pointless tool really given the existence of the volt stick.

 

[telectrix]

• given the existence of the volt stick.
  
  another piece of kit that can be trusted as far as a politician​

  ​

 

[Guest123]

I was once asked to leave a Focus store after starting an argument with a member of 'staff' over these bloody things.

The manager just wouldn't accept my point of view.....maybe it was the way I was trying to get it across.:83:


Theres a thread on here about it somewhere.