Neon Screwdrivers....

[Dizzy_Maskell]

Abolish them let DIY ppl think they know what they are doing death traps screwdrivers dangerous too

 

[Silly Sausage]

These neon screwdrivers can't be that bad.
The NICEIC sell them.

Kompakt VDE Slimline Pouch Set 16pc WER003484

 

[ferg]

These neon screwdrivers can't be that bad.
The NICEIC sell them.

Kompakt VDE Slimline Pouch Set 16pc WER003484

Remind me again how that is a glowing reference

 

[shanky887614]

Abolish them let DIY ppl think they know what they are doing death traps screwdrivers dangerous too

A cheap multimeter costs less than £20 so why do people trust these neons?

Probably because the coffee stirers are a freebe in a pack of suposedly electrical screwdrivers

 

[BestGear]

First thing to do is to test the circuit using a suitable instrument.

Other than the obvious multimeter, what instrument are you thinking about?

Given the high impedance a multimeter presents, I would not be surprised if it shows a potential on E and N just as the neon did....

That still does not explain what or where the issue is likely to be....

 

[telectrix]

this is what you should be using...... or similar.:

 

[Sintra]

Other than the obvious multimeter, what instrument are you thinking about?

Given the high impedance a multimeter presents, I would not be surprised if it shows a potential on E and N just as the neon did....

That still does not explain what or where the issue is likely to be....

Induced voltage use a decent analogue meter and it will probably show zero. Why you want to put your live at risk using a neon is beyond me.

 

[Sintra]

Think it's all funny with all your remarks towards the screw driver and with the clever replays wouldn't judge any1 by trade as still learning the trade myself but I don't see any safe means of isolation in your descriptions such as lock off your breakers and using a proving unit as a known source when you are insuring the a indicator instrument so wots any different using a screw driver to not using a multimeter cuz your readings could be false any way with out checking at known sorce and keeping logs of your reading to ensure that range of value of your instrument is as close as I feel that work ain't being carried out correctly because you should have access to any certificate reports and things to current reg is to be labled or marked indicated of its isolation so wot you need a £1 neon screw driver I don't know wot you pay for is wot you get sounds like some had it bad if there on the floor made me chuckle employ someone with decant tool and expire nice cuz I can work on a live circuit alday and still not get a belt that comes down to experience and 100% good quality and well maintained tools and cleaned from any excess of water in one post as I chuckle to myself

Well you must be as crazy as the people that use neon screwdrivers for voltage testing.

 

[ferg]

I gave up trying to read that.
No punctuation and spelling a 4 year old would be ashamed of.

 

[ferg]

As per my last post.

 

[Tiny Spark]

My head hurts....

 

[Des 56]

5c077,what you describe is the real world
Test procedure in our H+S obsessive culture has to be described as it is in the guide books (though not always followed because of the real world you describe) saying otherwise openly may not benefit the trainees who read these posts

Again working live is what many of us accept as part and parcel of being a spark
We should respect the danger whilst having confidence in our own skill that we can keep ourselves safe

Having said the above,where possible it would be nothing short of utter stupidity to work live needlessly

 

[Des 56]

I think we are on the same wave length Sc077 (for now

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Neon scerwdrivers?

I read once an opinion on them that I like to use because it sums them up well

Why use the "human body" as part of a test instrument

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

I asked the apprentice to get me my voltage testers once and he came back with one of these out of his new screwdriver kit. Chucked it on the floor and took my hand grinder to it. Surprisingly it lit up whilst been abliterated.

 

[BestGear]

Ok, so you recon its just induced... that could explain it...

What about a fault in wiring or an appliance.... ?

I will see what a meter actually reads... just for fun...

David