new 18th regs, coming soon to your nearest cinema soon !

[buzzlightyear]

more monies down the drain .

 

[Midwest]

How much does that cost you

 

[David M]

My heart bleeds for you all having to do another exam.

ACS every five years
ACS commercial every five years
GAS SAFE
OFTEC
18th EDITION .
COMPETENT PERSONS SCHEMES.
Amongst other things !

All necessary to continue work for a lot of us Heating Engineers!

You don't have it that bad !

( I know my comments will upset some of you so my apologies in advance ).

Yet to meet a poor Gas Safe plumber.

I've been in the plumbing and electrical game for most of my working career. When I'm asked by a young apprentice "what trade shall I train for" I'd reply "Gas plumber/engineer" every time. I'm multi skilled but I went down the route of Electrician as my main trade with engineering, plumbing and joinery as my support trades. If I did it over it would definitely be Gas installer as main trade then all the rest as supports.

I have a guy who subs to me doing my gas work. His yearly earnings last year for approximately the same hours work done were almost 2/3 extra than mine.
I have no resentment towards this. I think its great that a tradesman is being paid duly for what he is worth!
Bottom line is, on average a gas installer can command more money than an electrical installer.

Is this fair? I don't know...

Both trades require good skills, knowledge & intelligence, plus the added responsibility of people's safety.

I think its just the way of the world! I mean... footballers get paid millions to kick a ball round a field and they only require one of the above attributes!!

 

[Last plumber]

CPR Low voltage rescue - every year
Working at heights - every year
Confined spaces - every year
Hazardous areas refresher - two years
Boom lift and EWP - two years
High risk working licence - two years
Re new electrical licence - 4 years

It's a money making scheme here too. If you don't have most of the above then your pretty much unemployable to the bigger companies anyway.

Yes, but is it fair ?
once you've got all that, should you need to keep proving what you know as regular as you do ?

 

[Last plumber]

Yet to meet a poor Gas Safe plumber.

I've been in the plumbing and electrical game for most of my working career. When I'm asked by a young apprentice "what trade shall I train for" I'd reply "Gas plumber/engineer" every time. I'm multi skilled but I went down the route of Electrician as my main trade with engineering, plumbing and joinery as my support trades. If I did it over it would definitely be Gas installer as main trade then all the rest as supports.

I have a guy who subs to me doing my gas work. His yearly earnings last year for approximately the same hours work done were almost 2/3 extra than mine.
I have no resentment towards this. I think its great that a tradesman is being paid duly for what he is worth!
Bottom line is, on average a gas installer can command more money than an electrical installer.

Is this fair? I don't know...

Both trades require good skills, knowledge & intelligence, plus the added responsibility of people's safety.

I think its just the way of the world! I mean... footballers get paid millions to kick a ball round a field and they only require one of the above attributes!!

I agree. I know lots of commercial sparks who charge less than we do and I can't understand it.
As far as I can see, We should all be on a similar rate. There are just as many dangers in both fields.
There is just as much skill involved too.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I was told has well, july 2018

 

[Last plumber]

Is that a definite date or is it just rumour ?

 

[Midwest]

A definite maybe; BS 7671: the 18th Edition report - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-matters/61/18th-edition-report/index.cfm

 

[Flanders]

Still got to get the blue and brown 17th first

 

[Last plumber]

A definite maybe; BS 7671: the 18th Edition report - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-matters/61/18th-edition-report/index.cfm

Thanks for the link

 

[richard12]

Gas Safe visit every five years, we have to put up with an annual visit. Then annoy one of our customers by taking a suit round to their house and turning the power off.

 

[Wilko]

Gas Safe visit every five years, we have to put up with an annual visit. Then annoy one of our customers by taking a suit round to their house and turning the power off.

This whole annual visit thing does my head in. Do we forget how to do it or something? I think a greater interest in reports of bad work might be more appropriate...

 

[Last plumber]

This whole annual visit thing does my head in. Do we forget how to do it or something? I think a greater interest in reports of bad work might be more appropriate...

It's all a bit of a farce !

 

[Last plumber]

Gas Safe visit every five years, we have to put up with an annual visit. Then annoy one of our customers by taking a suit round to their house and turning the power off.

We re-sit ACS every five years, gas safe visits are more random.
Some people are visited very regular and others years apart.

 

[FatAlan]

You'd think that the basis of BS7671 is safety of all. It should be classed as public information and therefore they should only charge a nominal fee for admin especially as it can be used as the reference to which the statues are enforced.