New ceiling light - what am I doing wrong!!!

[Matt Anssari]

Sorry photos are here;

I do t want to offend anyone, (other than myself) but this really can't be that hard to warrant a electriacian, I'm literally swapping like for like.

The photo (with colour lines) is of ceiling fitting , it has a block which I took the colour wires out (it worked fine)

The second photo with numbers is of my new light wires to connect;

1 = blue string inside (neutral?)

2 = has no sting inside (live?)

3 = has a green string inside (earth?)

4 = green wire (2nd earth?)

Matt

 

[telectrix]

as both i and RB have said, that old rose needs to come off and the fixing bracket mounted correctly. then the electrical connections can be done using wagos or similar. as said before. time for an electrician.

 

[mache]

I think your theory for how to connect the new light to the old light connections is probably OK. I do wonder though if while mounting the new steel bracket you might have nicked the insulation on the cables in the old ceiling rose and now have a short circuit causing your breaker to trip.

 

[telectrix]

FFS. OP wants to bodge it, won't listen to advice. I'm out.

 

[Andy5678]

Have you turned the bracket round after comments and still left the old ceiling rose there? Is it really is that hard to warrant an electrician? Looks like it

 

[westward10]

Why have you taken the sleeving off, do you know which one was brown and blue of that nasty Chinese cable.

 

[Rpa07]

It must be bad - @telectrix is usually last off the sinking ship - women and children first!
I think we all need another bank holiday!

 

[Rpa07]

Using 'string' theory it is possible!

 

[Rpa07]

Why have you taken the sleeving off, do you know which one was brown and blue of that nasty Chinese cable.

As post above text! Doh

 

[Matt Anssari]

IM not trying to botch anything, I'm just trying to install a new light myself.

The bracket may be the wrong way round? As removed this and put back on before photo.

In Worthing by the way.

I removed the sleeves as I shortened the cable and removed out of block supplied

 

[Matt Anssari]

THis is the old light fitting and wires of it helps.

Could having the metal bracket the wrong way round be causing issue?

I'll look at removing the old rose tomorrow and installing new bracket direct to ceiling.

Matt

 

[telectrix]

another light fitting "designed" by some arty farty numpty who hasn't got a clue as to how it can be fitted.

 

[westward10]

As someone else stated the bracket may have damaged the live conductors.

 

[Richard Burns]

Ah well, this is what the wring should be if it is correctly wired at the ceiling rose.

you want to get to this

 

[Matt Anssari]

Thank you Richard for taking time to do that I really appreciate it.

I will remove the old rose tomorrow and install directly to ceiling.

I just hope I haven't buggered new light fitting or snagged ceiling wires beyond repair.

I have a family member who is a electrician ( I know I know) but like I said I wanted to do this on my own, pride and all that, but will be calling him if still doesn't work.

Thanks again for all that replied.

Matt